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For the recoil, it's nod bad, definitely less than a 870. I'm 172cm and 65kg (I live in Finland so I'm used to metric units) and I can shoot a full 10-round mag of 1 7/8 oz 3" #4 shells without taking a step back in less than 2.5 seconds. Oh well, I've owned a over and under 12/76 weighting in at slightly less than 6lbs since since I was 15 (I'm 20 now) so I'm not afraid of a little kick Edit: for reliability, mine is a 4 port 17" gun, and for everything except skeet loads, it runs 100%. "if magazine can feed it, the beast can eat it"

I hate the Internet... I NEED one of those...

Out of curiosity, could someone post a video of this with the mag completely loaded?

Yeah, saigas are sold with 43cm (about 17") barrels almost everywhere except UK and USA.

I'll take it. How much for shipping? about 10 usd.

The only part you need to file is the front lip of the Surefire's. Greg Thanks for the info, too bad you can't ship them to me directly...

SOLD!

Hello, has anyone who has the Izmash factory magwell fitted one of the SGM mags into their Saigas? The thing is, they are PITA to get to here and I wouldn't like to find out that I can't fit them to my gun...

Just the front retaining kit. I can't find a rear trunnion for sale anywhere so that I could sell the stock...

I don't have decent cam, but you can find a pic on rusmilitary.com shipping to US is less than 10 usd

10 usd + shipping located in Finland.

Izmash made front retainer kit for Saiga-12K with sidefolding stock. Taken from a stock Saiga-12K, never been used. Lost the small C-clip that retains the spring inside front HG during disassembly, but anyone should be able to find one of those in hardware store. Asking 30usd + shipping, this is located in Finland.

A fast photoshop I made: Here is the original:

I definitely need one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6VqLkqxp7Y...feature=related Okay, song is old from WWI, but I still think describes how Finland should have been, and especially us, the soldiers (every man Finland is rquired to go througj baic training).

According to what I've heard, they are just tight. Make sure both the gun and mag is empty, put the front lug in and use brute force get them in. Do this a few times to wear them in.

just pick up some high brass shells and go shoot that thing!

Thanks for info.. now, the Izmash 8-rounder spring is stronger than the agp 10-rounder spring. Do you think it's a spring issue or something else?

I have a Saiga-12K with "folding" Ak-100 series buttstock. Unfortunately it has to be made to "solid" to comply with Finnish gun laws. To me, the stock feels too short. Just something to consider, and the reason why I'm getting a custom rear trunnion with threads for Ar-buffer tube (gonna get Magpul CTR on it most likely).

Anyone with actual experience on frankenmagging AGPs? Spring modifications needed? Wakal? Thanks for _any_ info!

No one interested in trade to two surefires? Got the trigger already...

Headshot: otherwise a good idea, but looking at how the screw holes align, that mag would give me perhaps 13-14 round capacity... wich is just not enough, ig I'm going to sacrifice two 10-rounders for it.

Not AGP, i just found a shop (no, I'm not going to name it) that shipped some to me. Cobra, i think you are one of the most experienced here when it comes to frankenmagging, no idea on AGPs?

I live in Finland...

So, basically what I'm thinking about is making a frankenmag out of 2 AGP 10-rounders, as it seems that I can't get any surefire 12 rounders. Does anybody know if you can join them with soldering iron, or do i have to sacrifice two of my russian 8-rounders?