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Not to heap on here at all but I LOL'ed at the pistol with the end of the grip wrapped. It's like "Where did that pistol go? I can't see it because it's camoflouge!"

If it broke and it was $30 then it was, without a doubt, a Chinese knockoff. They are nearly identical looking and are sold at gun shows as the real deal but they are not. I have three real ones, they are solid as a brick sh!thouse and would most likely be the last thing to fail on my gun. Here is a video on how to tell them apart: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCkFDL1PU8M

If I am not mistaken, the steel is not mixed with lead (lead is already among the cheapest metals) but ferrous iron or steel mixed with the copper jacket to keep costs down (copper prices are quite high). This is called a bi-metal jacket. You will sometimes see this in the description for any of the new Russian import stuff. Wolf, Barnaul, etc.

I just wanted to add a public "Thank You" to this thread. Sunnybean sent out the magazine at his cost and would not even let me pay for shipping! It is rare to come across somebody that is as generous and selfless as sunnybean and I just wanted to say thanks. I also wanted to make sure that if anybody searches sunnybean in the future to find out what kind of guy he is before doing business with him, he is most definitely one of the good guys.

I didn't mean to give the impression that our state is a sad place. There is a lot going for it in the natural beauty and history as well as the weather. I have literally been all over the world and have yet to see a place as beautiful as Yosemite National Park (I camp there every year). My dislike for this state comes entirely from the ridiculous laws that we must endure. Our gun laws are completely nonsensical and do nothing to deter crime, only deter upstanding citizens and businesses from bothering to deal with the subject of guns. We are completely overrun with illegal aliens here in sout

I certainly will. Thank you so much for this act of kindness. I vow to use this in my own Saiga and to never resell it. It certainly sucks that we are coming under more and more draconian laws here in California. I only hope that we can be an example of what happens when rights are systematically removed from citizens. Our state is billions in defecit every year and getting worse. We are circling the drain without a doubt. I hope other states learn from our inept legislature and do not make the same mistakes. Thanks for your very generous gesture sunnybean, I hope I can find a good way to

I am stuck in the People's Republic of Kalifornia and would love to have this magazine. If it hasn't been spoken for, I'll take it with great appreciation.

Ahh, I thought that might be what you meant but thought maybe I was missing something. Why not make it an Accuracy International, a Tikka, or a Barrett? All of those rifles are exponentially more expensive than the Saiga also, and all are arguably better rifles too. I would love a Springfield M1A but the $2000 is a tough pill to swallow right now. Maybe someday...

Thanks, I will try to take some pics tomorrow. I used denatured alcohol to clean the rail before spraying to make sure that there was no grease or oils present. I masked the areas that I wanted to keep black and then just sprayed it. With a full ten round magazine it weighs just under nine pounds. So your idea of a Saiga conversion (as stated in the thread title) is an M1A national match rifle? Oooooohkay, you lost me there. It's a nice rifle but I don't get how it's a Saiga conversion.

Yea, that Millet red dot gets great reviews, nice choice. I love the Bushnell that I got for a lot of reasons. My purpose of use for this rifle is in a SHTF scenario. I like the T-dot reticle for the ease of target acquisition and the optics are crystal clear. I like the adjustable brightness and color of the reticle and it holds a rock solid zero. Finally, this thing may be heavier than some alternatives but it is built like a tank. I haven't tried it but I am reasonably certain that I could drop the rifle from shoulder height onto the optic and it would not even notice. I just wanted someth

There is a huge thread about this, I'll sum it up for you: If you're an American and you buy a Chinese made product over a comparable American made product, you're basically selling out to Communism. This goes doubly for people who claim to be Republicans and/or Right-Wing (with the exception of possibly purist Libertarians) AND infinitely so for people who claim to be Patriots. The biggest fraud is seeing cars parked at Walmart (where nearly 95% of the products are made in China) with McCain/Palin, Pro-American, and/or Troop Support bumper stickers; one can say they support all of that, b

By the looks of the instructions there are legs sticking up for the screws to mount into. Doesn't look like you can use one or the other, need both to stay on.

That would be a good idea IMO. The other reason I brought that up is to demonstrate the real forces at work with recoil. Your choice to go with the handguard retainer and the gas tube with the retainer should go a long way in helping to make sure that your rail doesn't move forward. Without those I think it wouldn't look nearly as good and, like I said before, would probably effect the ability of the HG to hold zero. Great work.

There is a huge thread about this, I'll sum it up for you: If you're an American and you buy a Chinese made product over a comparable American made product, you're basically selling out to Communism. This goes doubly for people who claim to be Republicans and/or Right-Wing (with the exception of possibly purist Libertarians) AND infinitely so for people who claim to be Patriots. The biggest fraud is seeing cars parked at Walmart (where nearly 95% of the products are made in China) with McCain/Palin, Pro-American, and/or Troop Support bumper stickers; one can say they support all of that, b

Looks good. I think you made the right call with the handguard retainer for both looks and function. I don't know if you saw the thread about the muzzle break that left drag marks on the barrel from recoil. I would want the added security of the retainer to keep it from working its way forward when firing. Is that a new gas tube or did you remove the shroud?

I couldn't agree more man. That was my only real problem with this rail was that some may have read the thread and thought it was a drop in replacement. It needs additional work and an extra part but the end result will be a very nice looking (and hopefully functional) rail system. As long as people know what they are getting into before they drop their hard earned cash, I say to go for it. I really like the look of the pictures posted on the AK. Hopefully someone will come up with a better alternative to a front HG retainer to really get the full use and looks out of this new rail.

22_Shooter, I am in complete agreement with you on all of your points. To each his own. If you don't like the UTG rail, it is nice to see some other options start to hit the market. I just dont see this one as being the perfect solution yet. And, yes, some Hondas are made in the US. vbrtmn, It is clear that you are just don't have the capacity to form any sort of genuine response to what could be a worthwhile debate, incapable of forming an informed position on anything. Further communism by buying the only rail made for an already foreign rifle that costs less than $200? If you say so. I

Wow, we've got another one here... How the fuck do you know what I own? Have I listed any guns here, no, get a fucking clue. Read the fucking post, I said, if I can buy a comparable American product I always do, even if I had to pay more for it. I never said, "I own all American things." I guess if you knew how to read you would have figured that one out.... I shouldn't expect too much. Buy what ever you want, why not just move to China seems like it may be a better place for you. 99.9% of stuff you can buy that is American made a foreign distributers also makes. A lot of A

Wow, we've got another one here... How the fuck do you know what I own? Have I listed any guns here, no, get a fucking clue. Read the fucking post, I said, if I can buy a comparable American product I always do, even if I had to pay more for it. I never said, "I own all American things." I guess if you knew how to read you would have figured that one out.... I shouldn't expect too much. Buy what ever you want, why not just move to China seems like it may be a better place for you. So you just lurk on a foreign made rifle forum and have over a thousand posts about a rifle that

Can you see the future of the prices of guns? If so, please list all guns which are going to increase in value Honestly, who knows what's going to happen with the prices; if you can afford the rifle in your current budget and you will get good use out of it, just get it... $350 sounds like a fair price to me. Please buy from one of our sponsors. I completely agree. I bought mine at what was a steal at the time-$379 plus $25 shipping. I have no regrets because I feel that the rifle is worth more. If you want it and can afford it, then it is worth it to you. Speculation will always

I should add that I have not been able to locate a truly viable alternative to the UTG rail for the Saiga. If there were one, I would favor an American alternative at a similar price point. Everything on my conversion beside the UTG rail IS American made. But to deny competition goes against free market capitalist principles.

There is a huge thread about this, I'll sum it up for you: If you're an American and you buy a Chinese made product over a comparable American made product, you're basically selling out to Communism. This goes doubly for people who claim to be Republicans and/or Right-Wing (with the exception of possibly purist Libertarians) AND infinitely so for people who claim to be Patriots. The biggest fraud is seeing cars parked at Walmart (where nearly 95% of the products are made in China) with McCain/Palin, Pro-American, and/or Troop Support bumper stickers; one can say they support all of that, b

I agree that I am making negative assumptions for something I haven't ever handled. Much like you make positive assumptions for something you don't have and haven't handled. I am able to understand basic principles of physics and grasp that basic metal on metal friction will be insufficient to counter the jarring forces of recoil. I do not disagree that it can be made to fit on a Saiga with some work and extra expense. To say it is PERFECT for a Saiga is a huge stretch. Since you say "coughfuckUTGcough" in your header, do you own a UTG Saiga rail or are you making assumptions? Because I have n

Right, that is correct, this won't NEED a handguard retainer to stay on the barrel. It WILL require a new or modified gas tube and WILL have an open front end. The only thing keeping it in place on the barrel will be friction of metal to metal contact. Every time you fire, the gun has a sudden force applied to it that causes it to move backward. This is recoil. An object at rest will want to stay at rest. There is nothing to physically hold this rail from moving forward except friction. It WILL move forward eventually without something to keep it in place. Friction will not be enough with the