Darth AkSarBen

More shooting this late afternoon. Very very comfortable shooting. I shot some Winchester 180gr Power Point bullets and it was good. They seem to group out on the targets well, and there is indication that they are well stabilized as the holes in the target are uniformly round with a black circle around the perimiter of the hole, as compared to the Remington UMC I shot that let a hole but more ragged than the "cut" left by the Winchester ammo. Would be nice to see it in slow motion to see the recoil. But, I can honestly say this, it really helps.

Well, I went out this morning and shot it extensively. Same reliability. Loads and ejects rounds like before. And, the recoil is reduced! Kind of reminds me of shooting the 7.62 x 39 Soviet round. Very nice on the shoulder and getting back on target again.

Well, will try today and let you all know. It should work. The link at the first post above goes to an Israeli site that have them. I know one thing. Israel is one to be foremost in their use and deployment of modern weaponology. They know their stuff. They ship world wide, and, while some things might be gimmicks (and there are TONS of them) some might be very useful. The recoil of the action is within the confines of the firearms itself, and should be unaffected by the stopping of the shoulder or other hard object. One can fire "from the hip" and it will still function, even thou

Rhodes, (and others), I worked on an idea and seems to be of good merit. I'll post pictures here and let you know how much, if any, difference it has made to the recoil. In feel, it looks very very promising. First picture is the components, which are a 4 3/4" x 1" wide spring, and a 45 cent roll pin, 1/4" dia x 2" You will notice the 6 holes in the Tapco T6 stock where the index pin locks in when you move it (release the pin position) via the small lever on the butt stock. I choose my most comfortable position and that is where I would start my modification. In this case it is 2

Nice picture!! Which caliber rifle?

SW Michigan, near the South Haven, Holland, Benton Harbor area. Not too far from Kalamazoo either. Getting ready to do a converion on my .308.

I'll take a Saiga .308 that has been "upgraded" any day as a Main Battle Rifle. To Russaings AK stands for Assault Rifle. Since this is the weapon issued to their military, I don't see how you can get any more "main" in battle rifle than that. Used in battles all over the world. It was the battle rifle against US in Vietnam, and proved very worthy. It's the Main Battle Rifle of many parts of the world, especially those that have a disdain for America. Now, I'm talking about the AK-47, the AK-74 and the AKM, etc. The .308 is unique to U.S., but it is a superior round to shoot against the

Thanks for the link about the fluid shock absorber. In that article it does state that it can be used on M1, M14, and an AK. One would need some kind of adaptable stock from AK receiver to this. I'm not totally convinced that fluid can totally dampen the overall felt recoil, or at least make 70% of it disappear. As far as AR rifles go, I'm sorry, but I have not used an AR rifle very much and as such I'm am unfamiliar with their furniture. I did not recognize it as such since I am ignorant of most things in the AR-15, etc configurations. I just went by the plain nomenclature on the site

That one is for an AR adapter. So an AK to AR adapter should work (Ace has a folding one that'll work). I could have sworn I saw an Enidine made for an AK... Guess again. That link takes you to TacticalShotgunner.com website and the listing is for a Remington Shotgun. It lists, at the top menu: Top>> Catalog>> Remington>> Stock Sets & Adapters>> where you end up with that Endine "hydraulic" recoil dampener for the Remington Shotgun. I sent an email to FAB, in Israel about the dimensions of the Tapco T6 butt assembly, to see if just the tube w

Went to the link on Enidine. It's for a Remington shotgun. Did a search and didn't find any similar componet for any AK or AK derivative. The one at MAKO GROUP in Farmindale, New York looks the best bet at the time.

Well, Rhodes, that would pose an interesting question. An Israeli buffer tube with a Tapco collapsible rear stock piece. I emailed them with the dimensions of the Tapco T6 stock rear piece. It comes apart fairly easily. One roll pin, knock out, then unscrew the round "nut" and take off the adjustment lever. Put the nut back on and pull all the way down and the rear stock comes completely off the rear of the assembly. It does say "Tapco USA" on the rear. I don't think they list a recoil dampener as one of the imported parts to be concerned with, but if it's an Israeli made stock it proba

Anyone ever use one of these before? http://www.israeli-weapons.com/store/butt_stocks/p14.htm Looks like a Tapco (or similar) butt stock with a recoil dampening buffer tube device inside. Cost looks to be about $111.00 for the stock, at The Mako Group or, about $102.00 with free shipping for the complete stock W/reocil dampner here: http://www.israeli-weapons.com/store/butt_stocks/p9.htm Another link about it here: http://www.fab-defense.com/en/category-but...uffer-tube.html On the one link, it looks like you can buy just the tube. Perhaps you can simply modify the existin

Great write up. Thanks!!! I moded mine just about the same, except snipping off about 5 coils amounting to around 6" of spring. Bent and put back together, and it feeds great, feeds the first round great, and has just enough room for the bolt to come back and take in the first of 10 rounds reliably. I felt the tension on the spring and follower putting the spring in one joint at a time and decided it has way plenty of power to move bullets, and it ceratainly does. Next project is to re-desing the Tapco T6 collapsable stock so that it has a stiff shock absorbing spring in there for

Try this thread: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showto...34785&st=20 pictures are kind of LARGE but the same thing was happening. Page 2 of this thread has the pictures.

It's not a buffer! I bought a .308 last night (9-4-09) and took it all apart, cleaned it, polished some parts and modified the magazine to hold 10 (9 comfortably ). Then this morning, I'm looking at it again and polished up just a few more parts, like the underneath of the bolt carrier that "rolls over" the hammer. If it's polished very smooth it makes the rebound so much nicer, and has less stress AND wear. Now for the "NOT A BUFFER" thing. It's a spacer. Plain and simple. I compared my .223 Saiga and it. Same length of recoil spring, same configuration except the space on the ba

Finally got the .308 home tonight. Moved the Tapco Intrafuse fore grip from my .223 to the .308 and also took the collapsible stock off the .223 and put on the .308. I have the stock that has the attached PG to the stock, and not the receiver frame. Put on an old stock on my .223 and with the PG is still golden to shoot until I get a new set of stocks in. Cleaned it thoughoughly, polished some parts, and modified the 8 rounder to 10 round magazine. Really has a nice 2 stage trigger feel, but I am going to get a Tapco to replace, it is just a nice feeling trigger on it.

There was a thread about this gouging of the rounds a while back. I just got a .308 Saiga, and tonight, after taking it all apart to clean, I used my dremel and polished the '3rd' lug that might contact the brass. Mind you I didn't change tolerances, I just used the fine sanding disc and went over the radius lightly that had been put in there at the factory to alleviate all this. I also polished the underneat of the bolt carrier so that it glides along the cartridges and cocks the hammer. This creates less drag. I don't think shooting and "trying" to wear it in is a good idea. Eithe

My recent rounds with a "door guard" in place on the dust cover. Very small piece makes for no dings in the side of the brass. Another thing I did was to cut a bit of material out of the dust cover towad the rear as the opening comes down, and made it more of a slope. Then rounded all this out. Now my brass kicks out beside or behind me, not in front. Also, I put on an extra 1/2" spring on the front of the recoil spring, same size. Seems to lessen the amount of ding the ejector gives the brass.

waite and his 3 wives...identical triplets!!

The're aren't enough women shooting these days!! I think that all wives and daughters need to learn the basics. Another day....another target. Waiting and soon to get the .308 Saiga to do some serious pumpkin and melon shooting!

Well, just for information, this link shows an AK-47, not a scratched out and remarked M90 being sold: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=138211253 What year did they start making the Saiga in 7.62 X 51? Maybe give it a new "American" designation of like AK-?? (date of first manufacture) or AK-308? Almost looks like a "third" rivet there near the front of the magazine latch. A Saiga could be pretty much converted to look a LOT like this one on auction without near as much cost. Only would be a "Saiga" and not one from Yugoslavia.

An AK-47 is 7.62 X 39mm Soviet An AK-74 is 5.45 X 39mm Soviet An AK-101/AK-102 is 5.45 X 45 NATO Where does the 7.62 X 51mm NATO (.308 Winchester) fit into this? On Gunbroker I have seen a Yugo AK-47 in 7,62 X 51 for $2,000 starting and buy it now was something like $2950.00 Are the the 7.62 X 51 actually known in the AK world as an AK-47?

When you post pictures you really ought to resize them just a bit. Microsoft (if you are using Windows OS) has a re-sizer power toy for free. After installing, just right click on the picture you want to "resize" and choose the re-sizer option and resize to a more manageable size. Saves you bandwidth uploading, saves the forum site space, and saves people looking at the pictures time waiting for it to load if they don't have high speed Internet access. As far as conversion, there are many many posts on here about conversions. and some on the internet. Here is a link to a page by page e

The best way you are going to get a decent trigger is with a conversion of the old trigger to a new trigger group, and change to a pistol grip configuration. AFAIK there is no decent trigger for a hunting stock Saiga. I thought you were converting???