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I dont like the picatinny rear sight, its too high. Why not order them from the factory with a rear sight like on the Vepr 12/Saiga 12, with built in hinge for a railed top cover? I think that would sell quite well and obviate the need for aftermarket parts etc. The folding stock is quite nice though. Regardless its good to know you are working on developing new products!

Thats pretty mediocre, I would be quite dissapointed too. What little reviews on accuracy I see all have dissapointing results, for a rifle thats over one pound heavier than a standard AK. What ammo did you try, and did you use a scope?

what are your five shot groups? did you ever try that? have you tried the 60+ grain projectiles?

I installed a POSP 6x scope on my bone-stock 16 inch Vepr. The scope is quite big and makes the rifle heavy and ungainly, good for precision work but I wouldnt want to drag this out anywhere. Honestly I have been having some second thoughts based on other folks reports and the fact that I wont be able to install one of the Sabrewerks scope mounts on it. But I wanted to be able to do some accuracy testing to see if the Vepr is any better than the Saiga. I am shooting this at about 85-90 yards, prone using a small garbage pail for a rest, so not the most stable but good enough. I started wi

Thanks Zag for the detailed write up on your trigger and cork bedding work. All very intriguing. Your work is amazingly helpful, as most posts have little facts or details, just opinions and hearsay.

The AK can be a accurate/ Take a look at the polish Beryls they will run 1" groups. And i have turned out about 1.5 moa 5 shot groups with a 21" saiga and 155s over 748 and iron sights. I didnt handload for my Vepr. So yes the AK can be quite accuracte, althouhg not like my AR (3/4") On my old 308 Vepr the 155s shot best. Zag have you measured where the lands start? Perhaps your OAL puts you close to the lands. Finally have you tried ladder loading? In my experience there is a big variation in accuracy dependin on velocity. I can see being dissapointed. Also are you firing in a rest or s

Nice! Glad to see the SUper pulled somthing more respectable with the Hornady ammo.

Thanks for the update. When i started working on things mechanical and attepting to solve some issue I was advised to determine that the most common and simple bugs first. Its good to know how to shoot the ak for accuracy.

Ive got some 70 grain wolf as well as the 69 grain ukrainian ammo that was supposed to be non corrosive. I really wanted a 20 inch saiga with its heavy barrel. I am suprised about the accuracy as when you posted the velocity numbers the SD went way down. How is the crown on your rifle? Is it any better if you just shoot the irons?

Is there any ammo that gives you half inch groups? Would you say this is more or Less accurate than 7n6?

One of these days, when I have a lot of time I am going to do a cold bore shoot. bam, wait five minutes, etc etc. I want to see what the Saiga can do then. In the mean time I have done better, way better with a 21" to the tune of 1.5 inches five shot groups at 100 yards with milsurp. My 16 does a lot worse - 2.5 inch - but I think thats because of the MB, maybe. Interestingly enough Federal GM fared no better than milsurp. When I get my reloading bench set back up I am going to try the 155 grain bullets, particularly the lapua, and see what they do.

nice. most saigas ive seen seem to throw brass in two locations. i have to say that if you are going to scope it the factory stock is pretty decent compared to the standard AK stocks. i got one of battlerifleG3s stocks for for my dad and with a scope its perfect. i think he has got quite a backlog though. the factory forend is weak. beware shooting it off the bench with a fixed rest - if the sling swivel catches on the rest it will rip the stock right off.

Sent my MO in late but he got me a stock fast. Good guy.

that beast must be LOUD

ill vouch for freedom optics. i bought a pkas that went bad after 40 shots, returned it without any hassle. he is a good guy to deal with.