Z1500 0 Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
98_1LE 0 Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Great news. Thanks for putting them through the torture test for all of us <-- Anxiously awaiting email on batch 2... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore 3 Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Great news. Thanks for putting them through the torture test for all of us <-- Anxiously awaiting email on batch 2... WOW! Now that's "standing behind your product"! Excellent testing, sorry bout that shoulder. Did I mention wow! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inparidel 4 Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z1500 0 Posted November 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 (edited) My problem is that after about three years of faithful service, my first Saiga 12 (2000 12 C with sight ramp and 19" barrel with a threaded muzzle), is that it is now beginnng to straight and stovepipe jam with all sporting target ammo not the potent OO buck or slug stuff). Does anyone have an answer to that one? Please help. How many rounds did it take for your S-12 to get to that point? I assume you've cleaned the gas piston and chamber right behind the gas block? Seems like if aren't getting enough recoil impulse out of bird shot maybe your chamber is crudded up or gas port clogged with lead? I'm going to some dremel work to those two parts of the chamber. It should feed anything after that. Kevin Edited November 13, 2006 by Z1500 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Wow I can simpathize...after another 100 rds tonite of the cheapo Remy green shells from Wallyworld. Oh the shoulder feels woohoo! The mag is feeding good with the 2.75" ammo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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TonyRumore 1,332 Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 If you just look at those Winchester Universal shells, you can clearly see a problem. The shells are actually flared outward right at the leading edge of the shell. The body diameter is about .775", whereas the big bulge right at the front is about 805". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 The Wally world Winchester bulk pack ammo is kinda crappy, I even had a blank (no shot just the wad). I stick to federal shells for my pump gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inparidel 4 Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 My problem is that after about three years of faithful service, my first Saiga 12 (2000 12 C with sight ramp and 19" barrel with a threaded muzzle), is that it is now beginnng to straight and stovepipe jam with all sporting target ammo not the potent OO buck or slug stuff). Does anyone have an answer to that one? Please help. How many rounds did it take for your S-12 to get to that point? I assume you've cleaned the gas piston and chamber right behind the gas block? Seems like if aren't getting enough recoil impulse out of bird shot maybe your chamber is crudded up or gas port clogged with lead? I'm going to some dremel work to those two parts of the chamber. It should feed anything after that. Kevin Thanks for the response. Yes. I have religiously cleaned the gun in all nooks and crannies. I have used Teflon greases and oils in the bore and on all wearing surfaces. The problem just seems to be "cropping" up withour reason. maybe the teflon (you should feel how slick my barrel is before and after cleaning) is reducing the time spent in the barrel, and hence the timing of the gun??? Again, thanks. Any ideas? My problem is that after about three years of faithful service, my first Saiga 12 (2000 12 C with sight ramp and 19" barrel with a threaded muzzle), is that it is now beginnng to straight and stovepipe jam with all sporting target ammo not the potent OO buck or slug stuff). Does anyone have an answer to that one? Please help. How many rounds did it take for your S-12 to get to that point? I assume you've cleaned the gas piston and chamber right behind the gas block? Seems like if aren't getting enough recoil impulse out of bird shot maybe your chamber is crudded up or gas port clogged with lead? I'm going to some dremel work to those two parts of the chamber. It should feed anything after that. Kevin Oh. . .I have well over 2000 rounds through the gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoop762 0 Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 i have had great success with the federal 100 round value packs...no jams or anything... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronswin 26 Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 I was starting to get random misfeeds (shell from mag hits top feed ramp head-on) with my Saiga 12. I probably have a thousand or so rounds through it by now. I removed the buffer and replaced the recoil spring with a new one. I get very little in the way of malfunctions now and I have used it in two major 3-gun matches. Also, check the drag on the bolt by any replacement trigger/hammer parts. Retract the bolt and slowly let it ride home to chamber. If it stops or feels like it is catching on something then find the source of the drag. On mine, the replacement hammer was too tall when the bolt would ride over it. Odd thing was that it took several hundred rounds for the malfunctions to occur from the time parts were replaced from a forward pistol grip conversion. I have noticed some European shotshells which are roll crimped and/or slightly longer in length seemed to feed better during rapid firing. Sellier & Bellot and Wolf as cheap as it is, works real good for me in matches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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