KySoldier 2 Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 (edited) Gilbert's Guns got in VEPRs this week in both barrel lengths in 223, 7.62x39, 308. All have wood stocks, five and ten round mags, and factory scope mount with rings included. The man himself from RAAC even came down. Nice guy, was very talkative and was impressed with the new Saiga accessories out now that KY Citizen and I showed him on our Saiga-12s. Edited February 12, 2007 by KySoldier Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Will they take the existing VEPR furniture and the larger capacity magazines? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AegisDei 2 Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 any ideas on price? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akdog 3 Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 any ideas on price? I saw the price posted on another forum by atlantic firearms. About $600 unconverted like in the picture (single stack low capacity mags). About $900 once someone converts them to high cap friendly status. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AegisDei 2 Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 any ideas on price? I saw the price posted on another forum by atlantic firearms. About $600 unconverted like in the picture (single stack low capacity mags). About $900 once someone converts them to high cap friendly status. I'll stick with my Saigas! Thanks!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gatorgunner 0 Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 First off, Sorry for raising the dead. Does anyone know if RobArms still has the Vepr contract, and if Veprs will be coming back? I always wanted one, but never jumped when I had the chance. Now I'm just hoping someone (maybe RAA?) will start bringing them back at a semi-reasonable price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 robarm just seems to be pushing their XCR now... check out Gilberts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gatorgunner 0 Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 robarm just seems to be pushing their XCR now... check out Gilberts yeah, looked at them, they only have the 20.5" .223, Impact guns doesn't even list them anymore, Atlantic has them for $900-1000. I've seen them on gunbroker, but I'd rather not use an auction site. I was hoping that someone would start bringing them in like RobArms used too. Wishful thinking perhaps... Thanks though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted May 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 First off, Sorry for raising the dead. Does anyone know if RobArms still has the Vepr contract, and if Veprs will be coming back? I always wanted one, but never jumped when I had the chance. Now I'm just hoping someone (maybe RAA?) will start bringing them back at a semi-reasonable price. I wouldn't call it raising the dead, this topic is only 3 months old. As far as I know nothing hs changed and RAA is still importing VEPRs just like they were in February. I know Gilberts has a 223 in stock, not sure about the others calibers, they went pretty quick. There will only be wooden models brought in, if you want something different you'll have to change stocks. I suggest the ACE adaptor and stock. They are also bringing in "seconds" which have wooden stocks that are missing the baseplate and butt pad. They are a little cheaper accordingly. Oh and the XCR is pretty cool, I just wish it could have come out a little sooner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 I checked one out at a local show... $1300. Too rich for my blood! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted May 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 (edited) Yeah, I've seen the Robinson guys at the Knob Creek shoot a couple times. They always wanted to "pre-sale" me one but I'm not into the waiting game. Last time I did that was with Stony Creek and their Suomi upper. Paid in Jan, expected delivery in June, then promised every 2-4 weeks there after, actual delivery in December, and I was one of the "lucky ones." Not ever doing that again. Edited May 12, 2007 by KySoldier Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuAside 2 Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Vepr's in euroland: the 7.62x39's go for 795.00 euros (=1050$) and the .308's go for 895.00 euros (=1200$). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Gilberts still has the 223 for $639 USD (=472 Euros) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuAside 2 Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 howcome you're surprised? S12's are like 700 euros (950 USD). all guns in Europe are more expensive than in the USA. (easily twice as expensive) even for the 'homegrown' ones from FN/Browning, CZ, HK, Walther, etc etc etc... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted May 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Reminds me of prescription medicines over here. That's why people up north go over into Canada. So what makes your prices so high, taxes? or just cause they can get away with it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuAside 2 Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 taxes are the normal 21% as on all non-necessary goods (as opposed to 6% for stuff like bread etc). i don't think there's a particular reason for it. might be that guns aren't quite as common here and are only sold from specialy licensed gunstores, so sellers might need higher margins to live off their trade, but i kinda doubt that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 taxes are the normal 21% as on all non-necessary goods (as opposed to 6% for stuff like bread etc). kinda makes me feel bitchy complaing about 6% on "non nescessary" goods (food isn't taxed at all...maybe that is why y'all are thinner over there ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 21 percent? HOLY COW. no wonder we left europe and came to america. a friend of mine that has an mba in business finance knows the actual amount of taxes on every 100 dollars we spend. it is something OUTRAGEOUS. Ill have to ask him to explain it to me again when I see him. add 21% on top of all that? no way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted May 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 taxes are the normal 21% as on all non-necessary goods Wow, hope you all enjoy some nice benefits over there like free health care, no income tax, no property tax, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuAside 2 Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 i doubt you can compare that kind of stuff. for instance, Sweden (if i recall correctly) has totally fucked up sales tax, but they also earn a lot more to begin with. you have to look at the whole picture. like if you compare computerparts in the USA and Belgium, we pay about the same, including our 21% tax we pay on them. then again our (quality) booze seems cheaper than yours. and in return your guns are dirt cheap compared to ours. anyhow, impossible to get a complete picture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Willie D 2 Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Does anybody make stocks and grips for Veprs? It seems silly that Robinson charges a $300 premium for a -$100 conversion that would be way easier than on a Saiga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted May 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Does anybody make stocks and grips for Veprs? It seems silly that Robinson charges a $300 premium for a -$100 conversion that would be way easier than on a Saiga. I've only soon the Ace adaptor block. Any normal stock wouldn't fill the weird angle cut on the receiver. I bet BattlerifleG3 would make you a custom set Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga_Scrod 0 Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 (edited) First off, Sorry for raising the dead. Does anyone know if RobArms still has the Vepr contract, and if Veprs will be coming back? I always wanted one, but never jumped when I had the chance. Now I'm just hoping someone (maybe RAA?) will start bringing them back at a semi-reasonable price. I talked to one of the sales people at RobArms. It may happen... but don't count on them getting in VEPRs or Mags. Other dealers have a few and they do not. If you noticed.. the web site is undergoing changes. I don't think there is any VEPR material on the new web site. I got a sporter version over at Arm of America. Note they had not extra mags. Oh BTW they had .223 and 7.62x39 and .308 Edited May 19, 2007 by Saiga_Scrod Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKOK 4 Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 taxes are the normal 21% as on all non-necessary goods (as opposed to 6% for stuff like bread etc). i don't think there's a particular reason for it. might be that guns aren't quite as common here and are only sold from specialy licensed gunstores, so sellers might need higher margins to live off their trade, but i kinda doubt that. Do you only pay a consumption tax over there or do you have an income tax as well? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuAside 2 Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Do you only pay a consumption tax over there or do you have an income tax as well? both & a lot of others but don't worry, it's not hard to make a good living out here, regardless of the taxes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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