Which to convert? .308 or .223

[gkellys 0]

I need a little help deciding which to install Jake's group buy conversion package on. I own both, but would like to leave one in the stock configuration for a more politically correct apperance.

I am leaning towards converting the .223 as it is the more strictly military type round, but I wonder if a pistol grip on the .308 would make it a better recoil manager. Which would you convert and why?

 

Thanks guys and gals.

[buckandaquarterquarterstaff 5]

The 223 probably will have easier availability of reasonably priced hi cap mags, and with hi caps you probably need the PG conversion anyway. The 308 is also a nice conversion, but the mags are $50 a piece. The PG doesn't really do a whole lot to reduce the recoil, but does make it handle better. A PG will tend to reduce muzzle climb when cranking out multiple shots, but with the 308 you'll be having climb either way.

 

IMO the 16 in 308 is a nice looking and handling gun even without the conversion. The 223 triggers are a bit rougher until replaced as part of a PG conversion.

[herr_cobblermachen 0]

If I had a choice between converting the 223/x39 and a 308 itd definately be the 223/x39- even more so if they had synthetic stocks and were 16'', because at that weight and size and caliber its not really a rifle but a carbine; which really warrants having a pistol grip on it and all the fixin's If I kept the 223/x39 unconverted, but converted the 308 id feel confused:P. You can make standard ak mags fit into the 223/x39, but not so with the 308. That'd be something Id like to take advantage of, but a big banana clip I think would look distasteful on a saiga in the unconverted rifle config. I dont know if one is easier to convert than the other, but id let my big caliber stay big, and convert my intermediate calibers into intermediate carbines- The furniture and recoil on my 308 is just too satisfying to convert , got a wasr10 in PG config anyway:P

[gkellys 0]

The 223 probably will have easier availability of reasonably priced hi cap mags, and with hi caps you probably need the PG conversion anyway. The 308 is also a nice conversion, but the mags are $50 a piece. The PG doesn't really do a whole lot to reduce the recoil, but does make it handle better. A PG will tend to reduce muzzle climb when cranking out multiple shots, but with the 308 you'll be having climb either way.

 

IMO the 16 in 308 is a nice looking and handling gun even without the conversion. The 223 triggers are a bit rougher until replaced as part of a PG conversion.

 

Sounds like good reasoning. I hadn't thought about mag availability or the .223 trigger. I have 2 hicaps already for each, but will buy a few more for the converted rig. The .223 is starting to transform before my eyes.

Thanks

[gkellys 0]

If I had a choice between converting the 223/x39 and a 308 itd definately be the 223/x39- even more so if they had synthetic stocks and were 16'', because at that weight and size and caliber its not really a rifle but a carbine; which really warrants having a pistol grip on it and all the fixin's If I kept the 223/x39 unconverted, but converted the 308 id feel confused:P. You can make standard ak mags fit into the 223/x39, but not so with the 308. That'd be something Id like to take advantage of, but a big banana clip I think would look distasteful on a saiga in the unconverted rifle config. I dont know if one is easier to convert than the other, but id let my big caliber stay big, and convert my intermediate calibers into intermediate carbines- The furniture and recoil on my 308 is just too satisfying to convert , got a wasr10 in PG config anyway:P

 

 

Both ar 16" syns. That did it .223 it is!

Thanks for the wisdom.

[1liter 20]

Why not both? They both have sound reasoning for conversions, mainly they look and handle KICK ASS!

 

It's like buying a new Dodge Viper and opting for a 4cyl. option.

Edited February 4, 2008 by 1liter

[Squib 0]

Actually I had this same question to consider - I am converting the 308 now as I figured if I had to head for the hills and could only have one rifle - I'd want the 308. I have a norinco AK already as well as a 223 Saiga - I'll most likely convert the 223 in the near future also.

[gkellys 0]

Why not both? They both have sound reasoning for conversions, mainly they look and handle KICK ASS!

 

It's like buying a new Dodge Viper and opting for a 4cyl. option.

 

I really want to keep one more as a truck gun that does not look too assault like if I pull it out to dispatch a hurt deer or somthing. Plus, I like the stock look for what it is, sort of a sleeper appearance until you stick the long box in, then it is hell in disguise. I think thee .308 is better multi-purposed for that role. BTW, I already have a fairly tricked out Rom SAR1 7-62-39.

Edited February 4, 2008 by gkellys

[1liter 20]

I hear ya.

[G O B 3,516]

I like the stock .308 woodie. The .223 I would want PG'd.

[Twinsen 86]

The 223 probably will have easier availability of reasonably priced hi cap mags, and with hi caps you probably need the PG conversion anyway. The 308 is also a nice conversion, but the mags are $50 a piece. The PG doesn't really do a whole lot to reduce the recoil, but does make it handle better. A PG will tend to reduce muzzle climb when cranking out multiple shots, but with the 308 you'll be having climb either way.

 

IMO the 16 in 308 is a nice looking and handling gun even without the conversion. The 223 triggers are a bit rougher until replaced as part of a PG conversion.

+2

[gkellys 0]

I like the stock .308 woodie. The .223 I would want PG'd.

 

I really like the woodie .308 as well. I wish it came with a 16" barrel. Might just get one anyway while we can if I find a good price.

I am calling my smith about PGing the .223 tomorrow.

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