Shellshock1918 1 Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Hi all, I went to the gunshow today and I looked at some Saigas. I'm in the market on the 762x39 version and I hope to convert it sometime in the near future. The ones I looked at had bolt hold opens installed. Will this prohibit a conversion from taking place? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 It hasn't yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shellshock1918 1 Posted February 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 It hasn't yet. SWEET. I guess the newer manufactured ones come with a BHO and older ones don't? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 I personally have never seen a factory Saiga w/o one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shellshock1918 1 Posted February 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 I personally have never seen a factory Saiga w/o one. Well I thought they didn't come with one because in the Saiga Conversion video on youtube he installs a BHO so I figured they orginally didnt come with one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 (edited) I personally have never seen a factory Saiga w/o one. Well I thought they didn't come with one because in the Saiga Conversion video on youtube he installs a BHO so I figured they orginally didnt come with one. He was RE-installing it. As stated, they all come with one. But it's up to you if you want to re-install it after conversion. Edited February 10, 2008 by 22_Shooter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shellshock1918 1 Posted February 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 I personally have never seen a factory Saiga w/o one. Well I thought they didn't come with one because in the Saiga Conversion video on youtube he installs a BHO so I figured they orginally didnt come with one. He was RE-installing it. As stated, they all come with one. But it's up to you if you want to re-install it after conversion. Ah ok, so it must be removed before converting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 I personally have never seen a factory Saiga w/o one. Well I thought they didn't come with one because in the Saiga Conversion video on youtube he installs a BHO so I figured they orginally didnt come with one. He was RE-installing it. As stated, they all come with one. But it's up to you if you want to re-install it after conversion. Ah ok, so it must be removed before converting? Yeah, you have to gut all the internals to convert. You don't have to put it back in after conversion, it's up to you. I didn't put mine back after my conversion, but I still have it, if I feel the need to down the road. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 (edited) The crap that is left over after a rifle conversion: Please note that if you play your 922r parts game right, the hammer and disconnector can be reused (as well as the BHO). Edited February 10, 2008 by nalioth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Threecard 15 Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 I think the only real reason you might want a BHO is for range rules. I discovered a few days ago that a used mag I recently purchased has a BHO follower. I discoverd it when I fired the last round. Where might one buy these magical followers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 I think the only real reason you might want a BHO is for range rules. I discovered a few days ago that a used mag I recently purchased has a BHO follower. I discoverd it when I fired the last round. Where might one buy these magical followers? They come standard with Yugoslavian AK mags. Chinese mags can be modified to provide this action. FSE Inc (when they existed) sold US made copies of the chinese followers, and you could mod your mags to use them as BHO followers. Some have jbwelded an empty casing onto their existing follower. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 I think the only real reason you might want a BHO is for range rules. I discovered a few days ago that a used mag I recently purchased has a BHO follower. I discoverd it when I fired the last round. Where might one buy these magical followers? Here's some http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/index.php?...19d34b0b7895158 , if $11 is worth it for you . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shellshock1918 1 Posted February 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 I have another question for ya. Tapco has two Galil Style handguards. One is just called "Galil Style" http://www.tapco.com/proddesc.aspx?Id=bd98...87-5248d0c76c84 And the other is "Saiga Galil style handguard" http://www.tapco.com/proddesc.aspx?Id=7c41...eb-3afa781040f8 Is the "Saiga Galil style handguard" the only one that will fit the Saiga or am I missing something here? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Superhawk138 202 Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 I have another question for ya. Tapco has two Galil Style handguards. One is just called "Galil Style" http://www.tapco.com/proddesc.aspx?Id=bd98...87-5248d0c76c84 And the other is "Saiga Galil style handguard" http://www.tapco.com/proddesc.aspx?Id=7c41...eb-3afa781040f8 Is the "Saiga Galil style handguard" the only one that will fit the Saiga or am I missing something here? The saiga specific style comes with a retainer to hold the handguard on as the standard style is made for rifles that have a lower handguard retainer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Superhawk has it right. The other one will fit, but you'll need to get a lower hand guard retainer. If you only plan on using that specific hand guard, and never switching it out, then get the Saiga specific one. If you ever want a regular hand guards, you might as well invest in Dinzags bolt-on retainer ( http://www.dinzagarms.com/saiga_762x39/akbor1.html ), which will let you use any AK hand guards you want. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shellshock1918 1 Posted February 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Wow, you guys really know your stuff, thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RangerM9 1 Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Wow, you guys really know your stuff, thanks! HA.....we know all......we're basically nerds....with guns....lotsa guns....lol seriously though....I think if you have a question on Saigas...this site and its members will have the answer.... if not several answers.....more than one way to skin a cat ya know..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Threecard 15 Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 I think the only real reason you might want a BHO is for range rules. I discovered a few days ago that a used mag I recently purchased has a BHO follower. I discoverd it when I fired the last round. Where might one buy these magical followers? Here's some http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/index.php?...19d34b0b7895158 , if $11 is worth it for you . Thanks very much. To Naolioth as well. JB Weld is another magic to be tackled at another time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MortalWombat 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 I think the only real reason you might want a BHO is for range rules. It also comes in handy when you want to run a quick boresnake through it without having to hold the bolt open or take the action apart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shellshock1918 1 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 I just thought of another question. How thick are the Saiga 762x39 receivers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 I just thought of another question. How thick are the Saiga 762x39 receivers? One I measured was between 0.9 and 1.0mm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TennDECA 0 Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Do the factory 10 rnd mags that come with the x39 have the BHO follower? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Do the factory 10 rnd mags that come with the x39 have the BHO follower? No, nor the .223 Saiga, either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Threecard 15 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I think the only real reason you might want a BHO is for range rules. It also comes in handy when you want to run a quick boresnake through it without having to hold the bolt open or take the action apart. Didn't think of that since I strip it down to clean it. Using a boresnake in field or zombie conditions might make that BHO function more useful Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wlnt 2 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 (edited) The only range I can get to requires a BHO (some type of attached bolt hold open, and not just a piece of plastic/flag). If you don't have one on the firearm, you can't use that firearm at the range. Can't say I agree, but I understand the rule (and I know when someone has me by the bongos) . louielouie I think the only real reason you might want a BHO is for range rules. It also comes in handy when you want to run a quick boresnake through it without having to hold the bolt open or take the action apart. Didn't think of that since I strip it down to clean it. Using a boresnake in field or zombie conditions might make that BHO function more useful Edited February 15, 2008 by louielouie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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