longrange08 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 HEY GUYS HERE IS THE DEAL BOUGHT A SAIGA OFF A FRIEND OF MINE WHOS FATHER LEFT IT TO HIM. HERE IS THE THING A IT HAS A ODD STOCK WHICH SOME GUY ON GUNBROKER SAYS IS FACTORY I DONT KNOW ABOUT THAT BUT THE STICKER ON THE STOCK (INSIDE THE RECIEVER) SAYS MADE IN RUSSIA?? SECOND I THINK I HAVE AK MAGS WITH IT HOWEVER I DONT SEE A BULLET GUIDE BUT IVE FIRED ALL 5 MAGS SEVERAL TIMES WITHOUT ANY ISSUES??? ALSO IT HAS A RUSSIAN SCOPE (PILAD) AND THE QUICK DETACH SCOPE MOUNT BEARS THE SAME MARKINGS AS THE RECIEVER ?? THINK THAT ABOUT IT THOUGHT I WOULD ASK YOU GUYS CAUSE IM LOOKING TO GET RID OF IT FOR A 1911 BUT HAVE NOOO IDEA WHAT TO ASK I SAW A GUY ON GLOCK TALK SELLING THIS STOCK SAID ITS THE RARE FACTORY FOLDER HE ASKED 175 FOR JUST THE STOCK AND IT WAS SOLD IN A HOUR NE WAYS HERES SOME PICS TO HELP YOU OUT http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq185/l...09/Image027.jpg http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq185/l...09/Image026.jpg http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq185/l...09/Image024.jpg http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq185/l...09/Image023.jpg http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq185/l...09/Image020.jpg http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq185/l...09/Image013.jpg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean.223 365 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Your asking how much you should sell it for?? and is it .223?? 7.62??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Your asking how much you should sell it for?? and is it .223?? 7.62??? The magazine in picture 2 is a 7.62x39 FWIW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longrange08 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Your asking how much you should sell it for?? and is it .223?? 7.62??? its the 7.62 yes i would like to know what its worth but also how rare it is and the bullet guide thing has me confused i looked and those are definatly ak mags Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 that definately doesn't look like a russian folder, that looks like someone didn't want to take the time to move all the parts to the correct position and put a cheapo stock on it. Keep the gun and do a conversion, you'll be really happy with it. If your convinced its russian then take some pics of the stock to show us what your talking about Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longrange08 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 that definately doesn't look like a russian folder, that looks like someone didn't want to take the time to move all the parts to the correct position and put a cheapo stock on it. Keep the gun and do a conversion, you'll be really happy with it. If your convinced its russian then take some pics of the stock to show us what your talking about it is DEFINATLY russian it says made in russia under the dust cover but everyone ive talked to says they cant come like that but ive found two people that say they do but its rare here is the link to the one on gun broker http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=113244431 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 well that is an interesting folding stock,.. looks like the old style factory folder with some updates,.. hmmm it is not converted to a forward trigger control group, no dimple, but does have the X and Y,... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longrange08 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 that definately doesn't look like a russian folder, that looks like someone didn't want to take the time to move all the parts to the correct position and put a cheapo stock on it. Keep the gun and do a conversion, you'll be really happy with it. If your convinced its russian then take some pics of the stock to show us what your talking about it is DEFINATLY russian it says made in russia under the dust cover but everyone ive talked to says they cant come like that but ive found two people that say they do but its rare here is the link to the one on gun broker http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=113244431 and here is the same one from a guy on glock talk http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php...57#post11340257 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 that definately doesn't look like a russian folder, that looks like someone didn't want to take the time to move all the parts to the correct position and put a cheapo stock on it. Keep the gun and do a conversion, you'll be really happy with it. If your convinced its russian then take some pics of the stock to show us what your talking about That's an Izhmash (made for the) Saiga folder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longrange08 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 (edited) that definately doesn't look like a russian folder, that looks like someone didn't want to take the time to move all the parts to the correct position and put a cheapo stock on it. Keep the gun and do a conversion, you'll be really happy with it. If your convinced its russian then take some pics of the stock to show us what your talking about it is DEFINATLY russian it says made in russia under the dust cover but everyone ive talked to says they cant come like that but ive found two people that say they do but its rare here is the link to the one on gun broker http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=113244431 and here is the same one from a guy on glock talk http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php...57#post11340257 and it makes me mad cause i know the guy who bought it new and he NEVER changed his weapons around just bought em and shot em but i cant ask him cause i got it off his son after he died sooo... and i went to take it off to look and the screws have never been torqued they were perfect so if someone changed it they did a fantastic job if they didnt even mess up the paint on the screws im pretty good with guns but not these so im hoping someone here knows enough to explain it to me however it is a fun a** gun to shoot so is that the actual stock that came on it i think it is but everyone has called me crazy and that they dont make them like that Edited October 27, 2008 by longrange08 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Ain't tryin' to spoil nothin' here.... but.... 1.B NO FISHING FOR VALUES OR PRICE QUOTES IF YOU ARE NOT A CONTRIBUTOR...DON'T EVEN MENTION THAT YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU ARE "THINKING ABOUT" SELLING, UNLESS YOU ARE A CONTRIBUTOR. BY DOING THIS IN A PUBLIC FORUM YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE ADVERTISING. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?act=an...p;f=42&id=4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Superhawk138 202 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 (edited) that definately doesn't look like a russian folder, that looks like someone didn't want to take the time to move all the parts to the correct position and put a cheapo stock on it. Keep the gun and do a conversion, you'll be really happy with it. If your convinced its russian then take some pics of the stock to show us what your talking about That's an Izhmash (made for the) Saiga folder. As Nalioth said above. That is the stock that is sold through the e-store on occasion http://www.saiga-12.com/proddetail.asp?pro...FOLDING%2DSTOCK for factory unconverted saigas. Not a 922 part and the mags appear to be the metal Surefire mags. modified but not US made therefore 3 more non 922 parts. You cannot legally use those mags with that stock/pg combo Edited October 27, 2008 by Superhawk138 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longrange08 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 (edited) Ain't tryin' to spoil nothin' here.... but.... 1.B NO FISHING FOR VALUES OR PRICE QUOTES IF YOU ARE NOT A CONTRIBUTOR...DON'T EVEN MENTION THAT YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU ARE "THINKING ABOUT" SELLING, UNLESS YOU ARE A CONTRIBUTOR. BY DOING THIS IN A PUBLIC FORUM YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE ADVERTISING. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?act=an...p;f=42&id=4 ok fair enough i no longer care what its worth but i would like to know if there are any answers to my original questions especially this stock issue kinda drivin me nuts now and if thats a factory stock i doubt ill get rid of it anyway esecially since i would have nothing to compare prices with anyway Edited October 27, 2008 by longrange08 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Ain't tryin' to spoil nothin' here.... but.... 1.B NO FISHING FOR VALUES OR PRICE QUOTES IF YOU ARE NOT A CONTRIBUTOR...DON'T EVEN MENTION THAT YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU ARE "THINKING ABOUT" SELLING, UNLESS YOU ARE A CONTRIBUTOR. BY DOING THIS IN A PUBLIC FORUM YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE ADVERTISING. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?act=an...p;f=42&id=4 ok fair enough i no longer care what its worth but i would like to know if there are any answers to my original questions especially this stock issue kinda drivin me nuts now and if thats a factory stock i doubt ill get rid of it anyway esecially since i would have nothing to compare prices with anyway Ain't tryin' to mess with ya... Please don't take it wrong... That's what I'm 'spose to do.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 well since thats a rare stock, keep it, and add some us parts to make it legal to use the hi cap mags and enjoy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
us_dragunov 11 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Ok....that is not an Izhmash made stock, nor is it rare. It is made by a Russian aftermarket company called STK. A bunch of them came in a few years ago and I believe were selling for about $70. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Ok....that is not an Izhmash made stock, nor is it rare. It is made by a Russian aftermarket company called STK. A bunch of them came in a few years ago and I believe were selling for about $70. I don't know anything about these stocks, but you can buy them at TickBiteSupply for $120. I didn't find any of these stocks for $70. Click this link, and it's a little less than halfway down: http://www.tickbitesupply.com/stocks.html . It's labeled "Russian Saiga Side Folding Stock". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 I've seen a bunch like that. The previous owner simply bought that Russian folder and bolted it on a standard Saiga. Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
us_dragunov 11 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Ok....that is not an Izhmash made stock, nor is it rare. It is made by a Russian aftermarket company called STK. A bunch of them came in a few years ago and I believe were selling for about $70. I don't know anything about these stocks, but you can buy them at TickBiteSupply for $120. I didn't find any of these stocks for $70. Click this link, and it's a little less than halfway down: http://www.tickbitesupply.com/stocks.html . It's labeled "Russian Saiga Side Folding Stock". yup....those are them......and like I said they "were selling" for about $70 back when they initially came in....at least I'm pretty sure that was the going price, and as Tony already stated...he just bought one of those and screwed it onto a stock Saiga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longrange08 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Ok....that is not an Izhmash made stock, nor is it rare. It is made by a Russian aftermarket company called STK. A bunch of them came in a few years ago and I believe were selling for about $70. I don't know anything about these stocks, but you can buy them at TickBiteSupply for $120. I didn't find any of these stocks for $70. Click this link, and it's a little less than halfway down: http://www.tickbitesupply.com/stocks.html . It's labeled "Russian Saiga Side Folding Stock". yup....those are them......and like I said they "were selling" for about $70 back when they initially came in....at least I'm pretty sure that was the going price, and as Tony already stated...he just bought one of those and screwed it onto a stock Saiga. OK GUYS THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean.223 365 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Ok....that is not an Izhmash made stock, nor is it rare. It is made by a Russian aftermarket company called STK. A bunch of them came in a few years ago and I believe were selling for about $70. I don't know anything about these stocks, but you can buy them at TickBiteSupply for $120. I didn't find any of these stocks for $70. Click this link, and it's a little less than halfway down: http://www.tickbitesupply.com/stocks.html . It's labeled "Russian Saiga Side Folding Stock". Actually TickBite has been Sold Out for over a year now. I emailed around about that stock and they are no longer being imported, was what I was told. So I think in that regard they are kind of rare. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
us_dragunov 11 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 I did a little more digging for you and I was wrong on the price....it seems that the $120 price was the going rate for these about 2 years ago or so... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Ok....that is not an Izhmash made stock, nor is it rare. It is made by a Russian aftermarket company called STK. A bunch of them came in a few years ago and I believe were selling for about $70. I don't know anything about these stocks, but you can buy them at TickBiteSupply for $120. I didn't find any of these stocks for $70. Click this link, and it's a little less than halfway down: http://www.tickbitesupply.com/stocks.html . It's labeled "Russian Saiga Side Folding Stock". Actually TickBite has been Sold Out for over a year now. I emailed around about that stock and they are no longer being imported, was what I was told. So I think in that regard they are kind of rare. I didn't know that, thanks for the update. I found the link more for a price comparison, as opposed to actually buying one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunnysmith 4 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 (edited) By the way, All caps on the internet is like yelling in a library. Not generally accepted and makes it difficult to read. Edited October 27, 2008 by gunnysmith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longrange08 0 Posted October 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 By the way, All caps on the internet is like yelling in a library.Not generally accepted and makes it difficult to read. I USE ALL CAPS BECAUSE IM AT WORK AND ITS THE WAY THE PC IS SET UP SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION NOT BEING ANGRY OR ANYTHING THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR HELP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean.223 365 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 By the way, All caps on the internet is like yelling in a library.Not generally accepted and makes it difficult to read. I USE ALL CAPS BECAUSE IM AT WORK AND ITS THE WAY THE PC IS SET UP SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION NOT BEING ANGRY OR ANYTHING THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR HELP LOL ...odd... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 (edited) By the way, All caps on the internet is like yelling in a library.Not generally accepted and makes it difficult to read. I USE ALL CAPS BECAUSE IM AT WORK AND ITS THE WAY THE PC IS SET UP SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION NOT BEING ANGRY OR ANYTHING THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR HELP YOU'RE WELCOME! Edited October 29, 2008 by 22_Shooter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I am sure it is extremely difficult to hit the "caps lock" key... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunnysmith 4 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I USE ALL CAPS BECAUSE IM AT WORK AND ITS THE WAY THE PC IS SET UP SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION NOT BEING ANGRY OR ANYTHING THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR HELP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longrange08 0 Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I USE ALL CAPS BECAUSE IM AT WORK AND ITS THE WAY THE PC IS SET UP SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION NOT BEING ANGRY OR ANYTHING THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR HELP WE NEED THE CAPS LOCKED ON FOR THE PROGRAMS WERE RUNNING Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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