Jangles 2 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Is there a rifled choke tube on the market for an S12 ?? I think it would be a good idea as they really do work and the accuracy is incredible coming from a smooth bore bbl. I have one on a Remington and like I said before they really work. I'll take the first one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
russianblood 0 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Izhmash makes one called a Paradox choke but I don't know of any US source for them anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cynical 8 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 I'm not sure I see the point. I would think that rifling would hurt usability with buckshot since the centrifugal force would spread the shot much wider, much more quickly. With slugs you don't want to narrow the bore. If these are still just cylinder chokes is this just to add some rifling for non-rifled slugs? I guess with a Saiga swapping the barrel for a fully-rifled slug barrel isn't practical, is that the idea? I'm still new to these things, looking for enlightenment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 I'm not sure I see the point. I would think that rifling would hurt usability with buckshot since the centrifugal force would spread the shot much wider, much more quickly. With slugs you don't want to narrow the bore. If these are still just cylinder chokes is this just to add some rifling for non-rifled slugs? I guess with a Saiga swapping the barrel for a fully-rifled slug barrel isn't practical, is that the idea? I'm still new to these things, looking for enlightenment. They do improve slug accuracy............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jangles 2 Posted January 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 I'm not sure I see the point. I would think that rifling would hurt usability with buckshot since the centrifugal force would spread the shot much wider, much more quickly. With slugs you don't want to narrow the bore. If these are still just cylinder chokes is this just to add some rifling for non-rifled slugs? I guess with a Saiga swapping the barrel for a fully-rifled slug barrel isn't practical, is that the idea? I'm still new to these things, looking for enlightenment. It wont affect the buck shot that much and I don't plan to use a lot of it. My gun doesn't like the cheap shit from walmart so I'm gonna help it out by shooting slugs. If a 230grn bullet from a 45 at 850 ft per second hurts can you imagine 525 grn slug at 1600 ft per sec? Oh fk me!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
russianblood 0 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 You just remove the choke when shooting buckshot. I really wish I could get one for my S-20. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jjones458 0 Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I would like to see the rifled choke tube as well, I would buy one. Any of the manufacturers have plans to make one? I shoot slugs and would like to have a rifled choke to add on for Deer season. Trapper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Williespeed 0 Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 jaral@udm.net Paradox chokes $125.00 includes shipping Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 If your barrel doesn't have external threads, you could have it bored for Remchokes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 I made three of the Paradox tubes awhile back, but it takes so much time and the Pac-Nor match blank was so expensive, it wasn't worth screwing with anymore. I have enough barrel blank to make a couple of more, but I will probably just put those in my personal collection. $125 is a deal. Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sly 233 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Please enlighten me if I am incorrect? But is'nt a choke tube there to tighten/control the shot pattern? As in bird shot? I have shot many a slug through smooth bore and rifled barrel. But that Paradox deal has me a little curious? Our S12's are a smooth bore of average 19in. A slug shot traveling 19 in of smooth bore, then encountering 3in of rifleing (twist)at the end of the barrel, would seem to have an odd effect? Follow me? Would'nt that have a tourqe effect? I'm just curious how that projectile would react upon the barrel and trajectory? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marc 147 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) Please enlighten me if I am incorrect? But is'nt a choke tube there to tighten/control the shot pattern? As in bird shot? I have shot many a slug through smooth bore and rifled barrel. But that Paradox deal has me a little curious? Our S12's are a smooth bore of average 19in. A slug shot traveling 19 in of smooth bore, then encountering 3in of rifleing (twist)at the end of the barrel, would seem to have an odd effect? Follow me? Would'nt that have a tourqe effect? I'm just curious how that projectile would react upon the barrel and trajectory? no odd effect...when you put the rifled slug tube on your shotty the 19" of smooth bore barrel basically becomes 19" of throat, like that of a rifle barrel only much longer. I don't know about any kind of torque effect but it would certainly be minuscule and is unnoticeable even if recoil and muzzle flip were not going to cover it up. The slug will react in a predictable manner, it will ride down the smooth bore and engage the rifling in the tube when it gets there, the rifling will impart some amount of rotational stability to the slug which will titan up your groups...trajectory will still be the same 30 degree downward angle from muzzle to dirt, however Rifled slug tubes have been used for along time and by no means are they a new idea. Google 'rifled choke tube' or 'rifled slug tube' and you will find them for many of today's popular hunting shotguns...anyone that lives in a state that only allows deer hunting with shotguns (no rifles) has probably used one at some point, but fully rifled slug barrels are preferable for that situation. Edited February 25, 2009 by Barnett3006 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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