Tromix Fire Control Group Question

[MaverickNH 0]

A description of the Tromix Fire Control Group reads:

 

"Tromix Fire Control Group - Tromix modified Tapco Trigger assembly installation in every Saiga (except the Saiga-410 & the Saiga 100 Series) for a conversion where the trigger assembly is being moved forward. This kit includes the Tromix disconnecter spring and Tromix Shepherds crook (neither parts come with standard Tapco Trigger Group). Hammer has also been modified by Tromix. Made in US. Counts as 3 U.S. Sec 922R compliant parts."

 

Where it says "...for a conversion where the trigger assembly is being moved forward", does that mean it is NOT a drop in repleacement in an existing sporter model Saiga-12?

[Nailbomb 10,221]

A description of the Tromix Fire Control Group reads:

 

"Tromix Fire Control Group - Tromix modified Tapco Trigger assembly installation in every Saiga (except the Saiga-410 & the Saiga 100 Series) for a conversion where the trigger assembly is being moved forward. This kit includes the Tromix disconnecter spring and Tromix Shepherds crook (neither parts come with standard Tapco Trigger Group). Hammer has also been modified by Tromix. Made in US. Counts as 3 U.S. Sec 922R compliant parts."

 

Where it says "...for a conversion where the trigger assembly is being moved forward", does that mean it is NOT a drop in repleacement in an existing sporter model Saiga-12?

Its based on the tapco G2 trigger group and tromix does all the modifications for you so that YES it will be drop in.

[7.62x39 0]

Where it says "...for a conversion where the trigger assembly is being moved forward", does that mean it is NOT a drop in repleacement in an existing sporter model Saiga-12?

 

Its based on the tapco G2 trigger group and tromix does all the modifications for you so that YES it will be drop in.

 

I think NB misread your question.

No, It is not a drop in for sporter model. You need to move the trigger forward for it to be a drop in

[MaverickNH 0]

Where it says "...for a conversion where the trigger assembly is being moved forward", does that mean it is NOT a drop in repleacement in an existing sporter model Saiga-12?

 

Its based on the tapco G2 trigger group and tromix does all the modifications for you so that YES it will be drop in.

 

I think NB misread your question.

No, It is not a drop in for sporter model. You need to move the trigger forward for it to be a drop in

 

Mississippi Auto Arms is selling a conversion kit Folding Stock w/PG that doesn't require receiver mods.

 

So I'm simply looking to replace the FCG with US Parts. Are there any options available?

[oct0gen 0]

try dinzag

 

http://www.dinzagarms.com/misc_parts/fcg.html

[oxyehho 8]

try dinzag

 

http://www.dinzagarms.com/misc_parts/fcg.html

Just make sure you read his paragraph on factory FCG very carefully. It talks of only two part count, since nothing is done to the factory trigger and the linkage, just hammer and disconnector.

[Nailbomb 10,221]

Where it says "...for a conversion where the trigger assembly is being moved forward", does that mean it is NOT a drop in repleacement in an existing sporter model Saiga-12?

 

Its based on the tapco G2 trigger group and tromix does all the modifications for you so that YES it will be drop in.

 

I think NB misread your question.

No, It is not a drop in for sporter model. You need to move the trigger forward for it to be a drop in

Yeap your right i mis read that. Its not quite drop in for keeping the sporter stock on it...

 

why would you want to keep the sporter stock?

[MaverickNH 0]

Yeap your right i mis read that. Its not quite drop in for keeping the sporter stock on it...

 

why would you want to keep the sporter stock?

 

I'd actually be using a bolt-on Folder/PG stock (check the link in my 1st post), which leaves the trigger unchanged. But I need to swap out some imported parts for US.

[madmax4x4 68]

Yeap your right i mis read that. Its not quite drop in for keeping the sporter stock on it...

 

why would you want to keep the sporter stock?

 

I'd actually be using a bolt-on Folder/PG stock (check the link in my 1st post), which leaves the trigger unchanged. But I need to swap out some imported parts for US.

 

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=38860&hl= gas puck is a easy one

[MaverickNH 0]

try dinzag

 

http://www.dinzagarms.com/misc_parts/fcg.html

 

Tony at Tromix confirmed their FCG is for forward trigger conversions. So I placed an order with DINZAG for the TAPCO factory set and plate. 4-6 week wait, but people seem to say good things about him.

[7.62x39 0]

Yeap your right i mis read that. Its not quite drop in for keeping the sporter stock on it...

 

why would you want to keep the sporter stock?

 

I'd actually be using a bolt-on Folder/PG stock (check the link in my 1st post), which leaves the trigger unchanged. But I need to swap out some imported parts for US.

 

NO, NO, NO, a thousand times NO.

Do it right and move the trigger back where it belongs. Any of those hang off the back, wannabe type conversions are uglier than a barrel full of assholes.

[jvdsteeg 0]

I live in a state, NY, where I can't have a pistol grip on my Saiga 12, does that mean I'm screwed as far as moving the trigger to the original position?

[ssorrentino 0]

I live in a state, NY, where I can't have a pistol grip on my Saiga 12, does that mean I'm screwed as far as moving the trigger to the original position?

 

I hope this isn't true. I live in upstate NY and just started my Saiga 12 pistol grip conversion. I'll move south before giving it up!

[jvdsteeg 0]

I live in a state, NY, where I can't have a pistol grip on my Saiga 12, does that mean I'm screwed as far as moving the trigger to the original position?

 

I hope this isn't true. I live in upstate NY and just started my Saiga 12 pistol grip conversion. I'll move south before giving it up!

This is what I found online, any comments would be appreciated.:

New York gun laws

 

CAUTION: Firearms laws are subject to frequent change, and furthermore, are subject to court interpretation. Therefore this information is not to be considered as legal advice or a restatement of the law. To determine the applicability of these laws to specific situations which you may encounter, you must consult a local attorney. In addition to state laws, the purchase, sale, possession, use and transportation of firearms is also regulated by federal and, furthermore, by local laws. This information does not include or address federal and local laws

 

It shall be unlawful to possess any "assault weapon" or a "large capacity ammunition feeding device". So called "assault weapons" lawfully possessed prior to September 14, 1994 and "large capacity ammunition feeding devices" manufactured prior to such date are grandfathered.

 

An "assault weapon" means (a) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) a bayonet mount; (iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; (v) a grenade launcher; or >>>>B<<<[/size]) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; (iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine[/size]; or © a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; (ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer; (iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being burned; (iv) a manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; (v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm; or (d) any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber, known as (i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (All Models); (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta Ar70 (Sc-70); (iv) Colt Ar-15;(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC; (vi) SWD M 10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12; (vii) Steyr Aug; (viii) Intratec TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (ix) Revolving Cylinder Shotguns, such as (or Similar to) the Streetsweeper and Striker 12; (e) provided, however, that such term does not include: (i) any rifle, shotgun or pistol that (a) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or slide-action; ( has been rendered permanently inoperable; or © is an antique firearm as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16); (ii) a semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; (iii) a semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine; (iv) a rifle, shotgun or pistol, or a replica or a duplicate thereof, specified in appendix A to section 922 of 18 U.S.C. as such weapon was manufactured on October 1, 1993. The mere fact that a weapon is not listed in appendix A shall not be construed to mean that such weapon is an assault weapon; or (v) a semiautomatic rifle, a semiautomatic shotgun or a semiautomatic pistol or any of the weapons defined in paragraph (d) of this subdivision lawfully possessed prior to September 14, 1994.

 

if you want the entire document go to http://www.nysrpa.org/nygunlaws.htm. Take note of paragraph 3 section B. I'm going for the skeletonized stock myself. I guess my question would then be, can I still move the FCG to it's original position?

 

thanks for all the info by the way, this site is great!

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