Vultite 57 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) Please, everyone note that Wikipedia is NOT to be taken as factual information. This is a website with information provided by other people, and not offical experts or actual company representatives. SO PLEASE DO NOT CITE INFORMATION FROM THERE, not only does it not count in college as a legit source of info, but I'm sick of seeing people use it as facts (even though most of it is usually correct, the few have ruined it) This is my angry rant for the day, thank you Edited October 16, 2009 by Vultite 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) If you DO cite it, please do the right thing and label it as such. The Saiga-12 is a Kalashnikov-pattern 12 gauge combat shotgun available in a wide range of configurations. Like the Kalashnikov rifle variants, it is a rotating bolt, gas-operated gun that feeds from a box magazine. All Saiga-12 configurations are recognizable as Kalashnikov-pattern guns by the large lever-safety on the right side of the receiver, the optic mounting rail on the left side of the receiver and the large top-mounted dust cover held in place by the rear of the recoil spring assembly. The looser clearances offered in an AK style design result in high reliability--an enormous boon on a semi-automatic shotgun, as this class of weapon had previously tended towards unreliability. The gun is also readily affordable and easy to maintain, made almost entirely from sheet-metal stampings. The Saiga-12 is manufactured by the arms division of Izhmash, in Russia. It was previously imported into the US by European American Armories, although their agreement expired in 2005 and Izhmash is now exporting through the Russian-American Armory Company. Via Wikipedia If you don't feel like doing a fancy quote, at least put "From wikipedia: blah blah" at the beginning or -Wikipedia (link would be nice) at the end. ETA: You really should provide a link for any stuff you quote here from another site. It's the right thing to do. Edited October 16, 2009 by nalioth 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Please, everyone note that Wikipedia is NOT to be taken as factual information. This is a website with information provided by other people, and not offical experts or actual company representatives. SO PLEASE DO NOT CITE INFORMATION FROM THERE, not only does it not count in college as a legit source of info, but I'm sick of seeing people use it as facts (even though most of it is usually correct, the few have ruined it) This is my angry rant for the day, thank you Uhh.. about that...some colleges are accepting Wiki as a source. Doesn't make sense to me at all how it can be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe Zambeak 53 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 That is where one of the more recent trolls got his screen name. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Please, everyone note that Wikipedia is NOT to be taken as factual information. This is a website with information provided by other people, and not offical experts or actual company representatives. SO PLEASE DO NOT CITE INFORMATION FROM THERE, not only does it not count in college as a legit source of info, but I'm sick of seeing people use it as facts (even though most of it is usually correct, the few have ruined it) This is my angry rant for the day, thank you Uhh.. about that...some colleges are accepting Wiki as a source. Doesn't make sense to me at all how it can be. Well, those colleges should consider improving their standards. They're encouraging their students to be lazy. Although of course there is some valid info on Wiki, it's also full of errors. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 All one has to do it hop over the the "Which is the best Polymer Pistol" thread to see what it looks like when someone plagiarizes Wikipedia and other Internet sources in an lame attempt to appear knowledgeable. There is nothing wrong of course about researching and cross-referenceing your information to make your post as factual as possible. But you are just a poser when you simply copy information verbatim without quoting the source in a vain attempt to hold your own in a debate. Plus 1 to Vultite for making this point! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aresv 49 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 This is a website with information provided by other people, and not offical experts or actual company representatives Yes! Mere "other people" could not possibly be experts. The clearest information always comes from unbiased sources like company representatives. I'll cite whatever the hell I want, thank you very much. If you don't like my citations, you can stop reading any time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) Wikipedia is just like a peer review journal. Lots of articles are checked, rechecked and rewritten several times by very knowledgeable people. Since I've returned to school, I've used it a ton as a jumping off point for further research. I mean each article usually has links to primary source documents, other websites, and/or other material that helps one understand the subject. So Wikipedia gets a big +1 while this thread gets a big -1 from BigSal. Edited October 16, 2009 by Makc 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted October 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Well, I guess I should have posted this a different way, but I was just saying "meh" to Wikipedia. A great idea ruined by a few people....I'm no mod (if I was I'd be fired in a day lol) so do what you want, I was just having a angry rant fueled by food poisioning... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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