CA bullet button for those who don't want to move trigger

[ibisko 1]

For those of us, (cheap,lazy non- purists)

who aren't going to move/replace the trigger group,

but who reside in CA,-( where you need the bullet button prior to adding certain accessories to be legal)

and want to add some "evil features" like pistol grip, forearm grip or muzzle brake,

(and yes aware of need to comply with 922r) -

Darrin and Craig at Assault Planet are exceptional for customer service and problem solving.

The AKL/SSB Prince BB is the answer.

[VladTepes 160]

For those of us, (cheap,lazy non- purists)

who aren't going to move/replace the trigger group,

but who reside in CA,-( where you need the bullet button prior to adding certain accessories to be legal)

and want to add some "evil features" like pistol grip, forearm grip or muzzle brake,

(and yes aware of need to comply with 922r) -

Darrin and Craig at Assault Planet are exceptional for customer service and problem solving.

The AKL/SSB Prince BB is the answer.

 

 

what does moving the FCG have to do with or not have to do with that device..

[cruddymutt 1]

Here in Cali you cannot have a pistol grip centerfire rifle that has an easily removable mag. This includes thumbhole and dragunov style stocks.

pistol grip SKS is legal, pistol grip saiga without mag lock is not....go figure.

Edited November 20, 2009 by cruddymutt

[shades_of_grey 1,092]

For those of us, (cheap,lazy non- purists)

who aren't going to move/replace the trigger group,

but who reside in CA,-( where you need the bullet button prior to adding certain accessories to be legal)

and want to add some "evil features" like pistol grip, forearm grip or muzzle brake,

(and yes aware of need to comply with 922r) -

Darrin and Craig at Assault Planet are exceptional for customer service and problem solving.

The AKL/SSB Prince BB is the answer.

 

 

Just out of curiousity: if you add "evil features like pistol grip, forearm grip or muzzle brake", how high does the mag capacity have to be for The State to require that you neuter your rifle, er, I mean install a "bullet button"? >10 rounds?

Edited November 21, 2009 by post-apocalyptic

[cruddymutt 1]

Im not 100% but I would put a paycheck on NO mags over 10 rounds here, mag lock or not.

[Killshot44 0]

Yup, In California no centerfire, semi-automatic rifle with a detachable magazine (and that mag can only hold ten rounds, that is the absolute legal maximum for rifles and handguns-LEO/Activeduty excepted) can have any of the California "Evil Features" items.

 

In order to have any of the "Evil Features", citizens have taken to installing magazine locks/bullet-buttons in order to reach the legal status of "Non-Detachable", mainly that the mag can't be dropped without a tool.

 

With a non-detachable magazine, you can go nuts on the tactical stuff. (pistol-grips, bipods, muzzle brakes)

 

(Much knowledge can be found at calguns.net as well)

[545x39mm 1]

Yup, In California no centerfire, semi-automatic rifle with a detachable magazine (and that mag can only hold ten rounds, that is the absolute legal maximum for rifles and handguns-LEO/Activeduty excepted) can have any of the California "Evil Features" items.

 

In order to have any of the "Evil Features", citizens have taken to installing magazine locks/bullet-buttons in order to reach the legal status of "Non-Detachable", mainly that the mag can't be dropped without a tool.

 

With a non-detachable magazine, you can go nuts on the tactical stuff. (pistol-grips, bipods, muzzle brakes)

 

(Much knowledge can be found at calguns.net as well)

 

 

Actually this is not the case. Picture a Mini-14. It's a centerfire semi-auto with a detachable magazine. The restriction is when you owned the magazines, not the rifle. It's perfectly legal to shoot the "Mini" with a high capacity mag IF you owned the mags before the year 2000.

 

So using the same rational it would be perfectly legal to use a high cap in a Saiga IF you owned the high cap mags before the year 2000. The issueis really complying with Federal law (922®) NOT California law.

Edited November 21, 2009 by 545x39mm

[BuzzKillin 21]

Yup, In California no centerfire, semi-automatic rifle with a detachable magazine (and that mag can only hold ten rounds, that is the absolute legal maximum for rifles and handguns-LEO/Activeduty excepted) can have any of the California "Evil Features" items.

 

In order to have any of the "Evil Features", citizens have taken to installing magazine locks/bullet-buttons in order to reach the legal status of "Non-Detachable", mainly that the mag can't be dropped without a tool.

 

With a non-detachable magazine, you can go nuts on the tactical stuff. (pistol-grips, bipods, muzzle brakes)

 

(Much knowledge can be found at calguns.net as well)

 

 

Actually this is not the case. Picture a Mini-14. It's a centerfire semi-auto with a detachable magazine. The restriction is when you owned the magazines, not the rifle. It's perfectly legal to shoot the "Mini" with a high capacity mag IF you owned the mags before the year 2000.

 

So using the same rational it would be perfectly legal to use a high cap in a Saiga IF you owned the high cap mags before the year 2000. The issueis really complying with Federal law (922®) NOT California law.

 

This is not correct. The rifle DOES matter. If you have evils on your weapon, including a pistol grip, you can NEVER have 10+ mags in it. The reason you can put preban hicaps in a Mini 14 is because it is featureless in its stock config, so you can use them as long as you owned them prior to the ban. As soon as you add evils, you cannot under any circumstances have 10+. You can use 10+ mags that you owned preban in a Saiga, if you leave it in the sporterized config. Add a pistol grip to your Mini or Siaga and use those 10+ prebans you have had forever, and in Ca. you are going to jail, BB or no.

 

I should add that all of KillShot44's statements are to my knowledge, completely correct.

Edited November 23, 2009 by BuzzKillin

[Killshot44 0]

Thanks, man.

 

No matter what else, using any magazine with a capacity greater than ten will get you arrested in California.

(and no not LEO or rimfires etc)

 

It sucks, but that's the law right now.

[545x39mm 1]

Thanks, man.

 

No matter what else, using any magazine with a capacity greater than ten will get you arrested in California.

(and no not LEO or rimfires etc)

 

It sucks, but that's the law right now.

 

 

So if I have a fixed standard stock mini-14 and use high cap mags which I owned before 2000 according to you I have violated Calif law?

 

This is just not so.

 

As stated above it's the features you have in ADDITION to the use of a high cap magazine can make a certain configurations illegal.

 

But a blanket ALL over ten round mags are illegal to use is not true.

 

 

For instance I have Calif registered "assault rifles". It's perfectly legal for me to use high cap mags in them.

 

The same applies to pistols. If you owned the mags BEFORE 2000 it's perfectly legal to use them in your pistol.

 

As stated above the info can be found at calguns.net.

Edited November 28, 2009 by 545x39mm