berma051 3 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 hows it going everyone iv been looking at optic mouts and tryen to find one to buy fo a good price. Iv done some reserch on here and found a couple diffrent ones. BP-o2 and also the one at the K var site, but its hella expensive can anyone tell me why ive seen a couple that looks the same for half the price also if thers any recommendations that would be sick (not a fan of the UTG one, the loweer the better) so thanks guys Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 (edited) hows it going everyone iv been looking at optic mouts and tryen to find one to buy fo a good price. Iv done some reserch on here and found a couple diffrent ones. BP-o2 and also the one at the K var site, but its hella expensive can anyone tell me why ive seen a couple that looks the same for half the price also if thers any recommendations that would be sick (not a fan of the UTG one, the loweer the better) so thanks guys I've had the K-Var and BP-02 mounts. I liked the BP-02 much better, between the two; it's also a lot cheaper. Edited April 9, 2010 by Jim Digriz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
n102788 6 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 (edited) I have a utg quick detach double rail side mount with an eotech 512 a65 and the mount holds zero very well. I have even taken the mount off and put it back on and it still held zero. They are cheap but sterdy and I figuered I'd get a better one when funds allow but now after some nice testing im sticking with it. just my 2 cents Also the mount is a low one too and works good with my regualr ak buttstock. Edited April 9, 2010 by n102788 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 I've had the K-Var and BP-02 mounts. I liked the BP-02 much better, between the two; it's also a lot cheaper. What didn't you like on the kvar one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 hows it going everyone iv been looking at optic mouts and tryen to find one to buy fo a good price. Iv done some reserch on here and found a couple diffrent ones. BP-o2 and also the one at the K var site, but its hella expensive can anyone tell me why ive seen a couple that looks the same for half the price also if thers any recommendations that would be sick (not a fan of the UTG one, the loweer the better) so thanks guys The one in your picture is not the Kvar Mount. That is the asian copy. The real Kvar mount has kv 04 written on the lower mount. I can't see anything written on your image. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 What didn't you like on the kvar one? The locking clamp seemed to weaken over time. It might work better on a rifle from which it was not often removed. The locking mechanism of the BP-02 seems a lot more sturdy, as does the whole piece. But that makes it weigh more too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sailor 6 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 I've got two K-VAR UTG quick release mounts. Fair price, very rigid, both hold zero when removed and replaced - I have yet to re-zero either the red dot or scope. I'm happy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
berma051 3 Posted April 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 hows it going everyone iv been looking at optic mouts and tryen to find one to buy fo a good price. Iv done some reserch on here and found a couple diffrent ones. BP-o2 and also the one at the K var site, but its hella expensive can anyone tell me why ive seen a couple that looks the same for half the price also if thers any recommendations that would be sick (not a fan of the UTG one, the loweer the better) so thanks guys yeah it isnt its the cheaper one just wondering wat was the diffrence cause the k avr one cost so much The one in your picture is not the Kvar Mount. That is the asian copy. The real Kvar mount has kv 04 written on the lower mount. I can't see anything written on your image. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 The difference is that one is a mil-spec optics mount made in an arms factory, the other is an Asian copy and thus of dubious quality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Ive used the DPH low profile and it does pretty well. I did strengthen that release lever with a layer of carefully applied JB Weld along its top length and a strip of sheet metal as It seemed the weak point to me. So far so good the two allens holding the rail make for a nice way to level the mount with shims or washers before slapping a scope on there. So far i like it and consider it worth the money but I use irons mostly and seldom shoot the 308 due to cost of ammo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 (edited) Just wondering what was the diffrence cause the k var one cost so much The asian one has a little stub hanging out to prevent the mount from sliding forward. The Kvar one has a whole ledge for that purpose. The locking mechanism is much better on the kvar one versus the asian copy. I tested out an asian copy with a large scope and the top rail shook loose within 10 firings of 7.62x39. The aluminum grade used on the asian one is not as good either. Some chinese made items are much better than other chinese made ones. This is not one of the better ones. Its not worth the $17 I paid for it on Ebay. The real irony behind this is that it wouldn't cost much for a Chinese manufacturing facility to forge one out of steel instead of aluminum and make this much better than what it is by reinforcing the locking mechanism. Instead of hitting a home run, whoever makes these cuts to many corners and this product gets struck out with a rookie pitcher in the second half. The russian molot mount is made of steel and the strongest mount I ever laid my hands on, but it requires drilling in adjustment holes to align the axis to match the rifle's bore axis. That is far more work than I am willing to do, and for $150 no one should have to. Edited April 9, 2010 by my762buzz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
berma051 3 Posted April 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 yeah thanks fo the info guys really helped next ima need an optic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MHSTC16 1 Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 hows it going everyone iv been looking at optic mouts and tryen to find one to buy fo a good price. Iv done some reserch on here and found a couple diffrent ones. BP-o2 and also the one at the K var site, but its hella expensive can anyone tell me why ive seen a couple that looks the same for half the price also if thers any recommendations that would be sick (not a fan of the UTG one, the loweer the better) so thanks guys I have the UTG guick release mount with the leapers red/green dot scope. The mount is made in china but it is well made and is rock solid when mounted on the rifle. It is low on the receiver and holds zero well after about 400 to 500 rounds and after being taken on and off. So far so good! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rifleshooter474 2 Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 I have a UTG 978 it's rock solid and has held it's zero when taken off and reinstalled. And at about $35US it's a deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MHSTC16 1 Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 I have a UTG 978 it's rock solid and has held it's zero when taken off and reinstalled. And at about $35US it's a deal. Yea thats the same one I have I couldnt remember the model # . What type of scope is that you have? I like the leapers but I'm thinking about upgrading in the future and I like the short compact scopes like yours and the leapers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 I have a UTG 978 it's rock solid and has held it's zero when taken off and reinstalled. And at about $35US it's a deal. (pic) SGL20 eh? Nice. I have a plum SGL21 currently. It's funny that my '21 cost ~60% of what my '20 did. It's all timing... When it comes to side rail scope mounts, I'm more inclined to go with the Bulgarian, but it's good to know that the cheap UTG works well. I haven't bought one yet; been training with the irons.. and buying mags and ammo instead of a scope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rifleshooter474 2 Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 I have a UTG 978 it's rock solid and has held it's zero when taken off and reinstalled. And at about $35US it's a deal. (pic) SGL20 eh? Nice. I have a plum SGL21 currently. It's funny that my '21 cost ~60% of what my '20 did. It's all timing... When it comes to side rail scope mounts, I'm more inclined to go with the Bulgarian, but it's good to know that the cheap UTG works well. I haven't bought one yet; been training with the irons.. and buying mags and ammo instead of a scope. I have a plumb SGL-20 also with a4-24 POSP Scope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Gonna second Riflshooter here, if you're scoping an x39 on the side mount you should definitely go with a scope like the POSP or PSO 4x24. I have one of those too and it's absolutely awesome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Gonna second Riflshooter here, if you're scoping an x39 on the side mount you should definitely go with a scope like the POSP or PSO 4x24. I have one of those too and it's absolutely awesome. I'd prefer a Kobra to better suit my shooting style.. but genuine Kobras seem pretty damn scarce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Gonna second Riflshooter here, if you're scoping an x39 on the side mount you should definitely go with a scope like the POSP or PSO 4x24. I have one of those too and it's absolutely awesome. I'd prefer a Kobra to better suit my shooting style.. but genuine Kobras seem pretty damn scarce. Yeah the Kobras are very nice too if you're looking for a red dot instead of a scope. Have you seen some of the other dots like the PK-A, PK-AS, Rakurs-A etc.? I have no idea if they are good or not never used them. Maybe they might be more what you are looking for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jcgriffindesign 0 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Hey guys, newbie here...I have a question about the mounts. I have a 7.62 SAIGA, to my knowledge the only add ons are the stock and pistol grip. If I purchase a utg 978 mount or a BP-02 mount do I have to mod my SAIGA at all? I am new to this so I do not want to start drilling away on my rifle. Also, anyone have any recommendations on red dot scopes? Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Hey guys, newbie here...I have a question about the mounts. I have a 7.62 SAIGA, to my knowledge the only add ons are the stock and pistol grip. If I purchase a utg 978 mount or a BP-02 mount do I have to mod my SAIGA at all? I am new to this so I do not want to start drilling away on my rifle. Also, anyone have any recommendations on red dot scopes? Thanks! No, the rail on the side of your receiver will accept all the various communist scopes/mounts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rifleshooter474 2 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Hey guys, newbie here...I have a question about the mounts. I have a 7.62 SAIGA, to my knowledge the only add ons are the stock and pistol grip. If I purchase a utg 978 mount or a BP-02 mount do I have to mod my SAIGA at all? I am new to this so I do not want to start drilling away on my rifle. Also, anyone have any recommendations on red dot scopes? Thanks! I bought the AIMPOINT M4 and it's a quality military red dot optic, at around $730 it should be quality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
berma051 3 Posted April 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 wat about the guntech one i just bought one at the gunshow wat do u guys think about that one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rifleshooter474 2 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) wat about the guntech one i just bought one at the gunshow wat do u guys think about that one From the picture I can't make out how thick the support columns are, can you feel any deflection when pushing on them? What is the cost? Edited April 19, 2010 by rifleshooter474 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
berma051 3 Posted April 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 there thick it looks well made and it cost 50 bucks but i got it fo 40 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paprotective 362 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Running a UTG 978 QD mount $35 with Bushnell Trophy Red Dot $66 from OpticsPlanet. Very happy with this combo for me.. Nothing fancy.. Holds zero well also. Albert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 there thick it looks well made and it cost 50 bucks but i got it fo 40 Does look like a sturdy mount for sure. I just rather have a quick disconnect. They are fine unless someone over tightens the adjustment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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