danny boy 0 Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Finally got to take my new Saiga to the range today. I have a 22" with synthetic, an ATi drag stock, Bulgarian trigger/disconnecter and original hammer, and a 6x42 POSP. The ammo I was using was Wolf 150 FMJ. I am impressed. The wind was blowing diagonal at me at a constant 10-15 mph which was a pain but tolerable. I sighted it at 25m, then moved to 100. I put 60 rounds in a 6" group , firing 2 mags of five, them letting cool for 5-10 mins. I fire about 1 shot per 5 seconds so it got hot fast. I am suprized at the Wolf's accuracy. I used to use the 148gr exclusively in my Romak3 but stopped due to quality issues. The .308 seems to be great. Occasionally I'd have a jam but I attribute that to the rifle being new and me forgetting to oil it before the range. Overall I'm really happy with the rifle. Not quite on par with my Romak3 but close and a little less recoil. After 80 rounds total (20@ 200m, 6" group) and another 100 from my Romak I left with a slightly sore shoulder but very happy with my latest acquisition. If it shoots this good in the wind I can't wait to take it uot on a calm day and see what it does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tokageko 8 Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 Nice shooting! Always glad to hear a good range report, expecially with the Saiga 308. I've heard it called a "Minute of Animal" rifle and do not believe that does it justice. Congrats again on the conversion and your successful range trip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Salmonaxe 0 Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 I shot my converted 16" Saiga .308 w/ 8X PSOP this weekend and my best group at 100yds was Just under 4MOA... (I'm talking 8shot groups) This was with some south african surplus I traded for some austrailian surplus. Overall accuracy wasn't the greatest, but maybe with some better ammo it would be better. But, I'm convinced that with a better cheekweld, I would have better results. I'm thinking of getting a lace on cheek piece or something. One thing I noticed is that my groups tended to string vertically... so heat is probably causing the barrel to move and changing my point of impact or it's just inconsistant loads... I dunno, or maybe it's me reacting to getting smacked in the face by my crappy cheekweld I shot someone elses Saiga .308 that was 20", and I noticed that the recoil was considerably less. It was open sights, so I really couldn't tell what my group was like. I did have some Failures to extract, but both times( or was it three?) the round stovepiped, yet had picked up another round... I found this strange since I figured if it failed to extract, it would be underpowered and short stroke without going far enough back to pick up a new round. I checked my extractor, and the spring was still really tense, so maybe I need to just clean and lube the sucker. One thing, I know that my tapco hammer is causing more pressure on the carrier than the original. It was pretty hard to create the same profile of the original since it's a bit thinner from front to back than a standard AK hammer. Hopefully it works itself in.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tokageko 8 Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 In my experience, and according to other shooters, vertical stringing is most likely due to a failure to keep the same point of aim. Velocity variances aren't likely to be the cause. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badinfluins 0 Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 If i had pics of my 100 yard target yall would &*%^. This saiga 308-1 22" is a killer. this thing shoots right at 1 inch with no problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tokageko 8 Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 I believe you. Mine will do the same (possibly better), depending on ammo. The Aussie surplus has been the most accurate so far, and that seems to confirm what others have said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cryptkeeper 0 Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 I believe you. Mine will do the same (possibly better), depending on ammo. The Aussie surplus has been the most accurate so far, and that seems to confirm what others have said. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Where is the cheapest place to get some of that Aussie ammo? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danny boy 0 Posted May 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 I just ordered 160rds for 29.00 from SOG, but sportsmens guide may be cheaper. I was ordering 1800 rds of 7.62x39 from SOG and just got the Aussie to try. Will be taking it back out tomorrow hopefully with the Aussie and more Wolf. I went today and started with my ROMAK, but shot so bad the Saiga didn't even make it out of the case. I hate days like this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
24kshooter 0 Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 I just ordered 160rds for 29.00 from SOG, but sportsmens guide may be cheaper. I was ordering 1800 rds of 7.62x39 from SOG and just got the Aussie to try. Will be taking it back out tomorrow hopefully with the Aussie and more Wolf. I went today and started with my ROMAK, but shot so bad the Saiga didn't even make it out of the case. I hate days like this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My 22" shoots 2" ish with Silver Bear, SA and Aussie ammo using an 8X scope - perhaps it would do better with Federal but my needs do not warrant the expenditure 20 to 25 cents a pop is enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onepoint 0 Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 I like the portugese battlepacks, I get just a little over 1" 4 shot groups groups on my L1A1 with it. The Aussy stuff opened up a little more. Its all depends on what the rifle likes too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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