tchick 52 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 I took my Saiga out for the first time this afternoon and put 100 rounds through it. Very pleased. I have 3 Hungarian 20 round tanker mags and I had 2 FTF malfunctions with one of the mags. The bolt cycled, ejected the empty case and then stayed open failing to go forward to chamber the next round. I pulled the bolt back and released it and the next round chambered fine. Ammo was Monarch FMJ. All the other mags functioned fine. Is this a mag issue or ammo issue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fallschirmjager667 729 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 do you have a bullet guide? did you see where it was getting caught up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tchick 52 Posted May 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Yes, on the bullet guide. I purchased this rifle already converted and the bullet guide is welded in place. I reacted instinctively too quickly to clear the malfunction and did not take the time to examine it closely. I set the magazine that is suspect aside and will try it again the next time out. If it malfunctions again I'll take the time to examine it before I clear it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutchsaiga 93 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 If its only with one of the mags, it's got to the mag. Mark it with paint or tape something and use it for the range only. Makes a good training device for clearing malfs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Agent Lemon 157 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 If its only with one of the mags, it's got to the mag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mogunner 240 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Marking your mags is always a good idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) If its only with one of the mags, it's got to the mag. Mark it with paint or tape something and use it for the range only. Makes a good training device for clearing malfs. I don't think that's necessarily true. Both mags may be within the standard manufacturing tolerences, (loose, obviously), but that welded bullet guide may be just fucked enough to only allow one to work. Obviously, I don't know if it's the problem in this particular case, but anytime I hear "welded" and "bullet guide" in the same sentence, red flags go up. Edited May 29, 2012 by post-apocalyptic 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mogunner 240 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Usually means they busted the tap off and were too lazy to fix it right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutchsaiga 93 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Usually means they busted the tap off and were too lazy to fix it right. Not even slightly true. Many companies that convert the rifles, and gunsmiths, weld them becuase it takes far less time than drilling, tapping, and threading in a screw. What I would do if I were the op. would be buy ten more mags. And check all of them for function, if they work, pitch the shitty mag. Id still take anyone's bet that your mag is the culprit. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tchick 52 Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 I'll put it through the paces the next time out and see what happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Pics of the bullet guide would be useful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Pics of the bullet guide would be useful. What PA said. Even if it is the mag, I'd still like to see how the BG is looking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jbanzai 113 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 I say mag problem too. I have 4 tanker mags and 3 work just fine while 1 didn't. I was able to find the problem in mine and tweak it so it worked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tchick 52 Posted June 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 I'll try to take a photo of the bullet guide tomorrow. jbanzai, what did you have to tweak on your mag that wasn't working properly? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jbanzai 113 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 It was strange, but the feed lips were stretched outward on both sides. You could see it on close inspection, but I missed it at a casual glance. I put it in a vice and cranked on it until it was where it needed to be. I think your problem is different, but I would suspect the mag. Those surplus tanker mags are well used. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tchick 52 Posted June 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Here's a photo of the bullet guide. When I took the rifle apart to take the photo I noticed a slight nick on the front edge of the bullet guide. I hadn't notice it before (I probably didn't have my reading glasses on). I plan on taking a small file to clean up the nick and I'll also polish the black finish off the rest of the front edge. I wonder if the feed lips on that suspect magazine are bent and making the front of the bullets strike the bullet guide? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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