patriot 7,197 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Good job. The rabid Left showed themselves to be exactly what they are: overly emotional, unthinking, unstable close-minded nanny state nutjobs who should be closely monitored and put in therapy until they can be cured. They proved our point for us. Mental health is the issue, not a tool that is our RIGHT to own and use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GREYLUPO 358 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 I LOVED IT! Thats what I hope would have happened and the kind of speech I was hoping the NRA would give. Im going to join today. I would have joined years ago but I always told myself I didnt want to end up on a list. Well, screw it Im joing anyway. Heres the full version 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedChallenger 149 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 I'm glad I am a life NRA member. Too bad it had to come to this for others who own firearms to join. They did well with the press conference today. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 As I posted in another related thread, they could have addressed the mental health issue more instead of jumping on the cops in schools bandwagon. It has been found to be economically unfeasable as it needs to be a trained person, (requiring constant proficiency training), instead of some retirement mall cop job. Then add malls, movie theaters, etc. to the list of other places requiring such security. I hope the NRA can put up a good fight though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GREYLUPO 358 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 As I posted in another related thread, they could have addressed the mental health issue more instead of jumping on the cops in schools bandwagon. It has been found to be economically unfeasable as it needs to be a trained person, (requiring constant proficiency training), instead of some retirement mall cop job. Then add malls, movie theaters, etc. to the list of other places requiring such security. I hope the NRA can put up a good fight though. No way they can fill all schools with cops, itll cost too much. But armed trained security guards? Why not? How much handgun training does a LEO get to qualify every year? Or every 6 months? If a person gets training I see no problem with an armed security guard. Companies like Wackenhut ect have trained armed guards in banks and Nucular plants why not add them to schools? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 I don't know why they at least initially cannot take the same approach As I posted in another related thread, they could have addressed the mental health issue more instead of jumping on the cops in schools bandwagon. It has been found to be economically unfeasable as it needs to be a trained person, (requiring constant proficiency training), instead of some retirement mall cop job. Then add malls, movie theaters, etc. to the list of other places requiring such security. I hope the NRA can put up a good fight though. No way they can fill all schools with cops, itll cost too much. But armed trained security guards? Why not? How much handgun training does a LEO get to qualify every year? Or every 6 months? If a person gets training I see no problem with an armed security guard. Companies like Wackenhut ect have trained armed guards in banks and Nucular plants why not add them to schools? I agree. There is no reason to make this too complicated and require all the peripheral training of a typical police officer. First of all, any armed guard is a hell of a deterrent, especially to these cowardly little punks who make up your typical school shooter. Many school shootings will be avoided without firing a shot. Second of all, school security guards can have very specific and specialized training and even train in a mock classroom setting or even take over a grade school somewhere that is set to be torn down and use it for a national training facility. Basically what is required are "Shoot/No shoot" drills, accuracy training, disarming techniques, perhaps special ammunition like frangible bullets, maybe some profiling techniques to help identify threats, or whatever, all focused on the specific task of avoiding or stopping a school shooting. I think it would also be advised to employ both uniformed and non-uniformed guards and advertize that fact profusely so that nobody is any more sure of who the guard is than who the air-marshal is on a plane, but he does know that he is there somewhere, or is he? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronin38 2,117 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 I think it would also be advised to employ both uniformed and non-uniformed guards and advertize that fact profusely so that nobody is any more sure of who the guard is than who the air-marshal is on a plane, but he does know that he is there somewhere, or is he? Non-uniformed security specialists would be more difficult to pull off in a school because of the low "adult" population. Everyone knows who the teachers, coaches and janitors are, generally... Unless you want to take the approach that the aristocrats used in feudal Japan, ie: are the janitors and gardeners only who they appear to be? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squishy 1,149 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 FWIW here's a PDF of the press conference fit for sending by email etc. I watched the press conference live and I read the transcript and I have to say that some of the ideas seem more clear to me after reading...no distraction of waiting for the next leftist drone to jump up babbling stupid shit. Transcript_PDF.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) Pre numbers http://www.statistic...nra-statistics/ Post reaction http://www.theblaze....rf-past-trends/ If you do not like the NRA, but do want to support against the AWB. Please support the organization you do like. There are several to choose from. http://gunowners.org/ is one Edited December 22, 2012 by Dad2142Dad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 As I posted in another related thread, they could have addressed the mental health issue more instead of jumping on the cops in schools bandwagon. It has been found to be economically unfeasable as it needs to be a trained person, (requiring constant proficiency training), instead of some retirement mall cop job. Then add malls, movie theaters, etc. to the list of other places requiring such security. I hope the NRA can put up a good fight though. No way they can fill all schools with cops, itll cost too much. But armed trained security guards? Why not? How much handgun training does a LEO get to qualify every year? Or every 6 months? If a person gets training I see no problem with an armed security guard. Companies like Wackenhut ect have trained armed guards in banks and Nucular plants why not add them to schools? Like I said, we would need somebody proficient in handling arms and be held to a certain standard for proficiency. The individuals we need in those positions will command a pretty decent wage unlike some random security guard/theft prevention gig. Wackenhut is a joke. I saw a Wackenhut guy in Tom Thumb tonight complete with his trusty .38 revolver, badge of importance, and 100 or so extra poundage. Not the guy I would want protecting my kid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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