goldenpony 61 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Took my newly converted S12 to the gun club this morning to kill some bowling pins. I was a bit anxious because in back yard try out, had a few FTEs using lower power cheapo shells. Took it to the club with a box of high brass shells and ran successful 25 out of 25. I'll worry about the lower power FTEs later. Maybe it will get better as it's broken in, or adjusting the Auto Plug or if nothing else, re-profile the new hammer. I love the smell of gunpowder in the morning. Dasvidaniya 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Cool, I'm glad you had good results! My advice, if you are uncomfortable working on the FCG, is to send your FCG to Cobra for a trigger job. I had him do one for me years ago and I am very happy with his work. He reprofiled and polished the hammer, smoothed out the trigger components giving a very smooth trigger pull with a smooth break and reset, and added an over travel limiter. For people kinda new to the platform that are not comfortable messing with the internal parts, this is a very good option. Besides the performance improvements in cycling, Cobras trigger work makes shooting the gun much more enjoyable. Whatever you do have fun with the S12. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted May 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Is this expensive? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cguiro 29 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I think he does the FCG, and profiles and polishes the BCG for 250 bucks. Look in his vendor section for the exact price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Is this expensive? I think the hammer and trigger is $100, don't quote me on that. Not sure if that includes the FCG, here for more info http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/90388-new-ak-saiga-vepr-reliability-service-no-extra-waiting/. , or send him a PM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted May 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 The ammo that is giving me trouble since my conversion is Federal Target Load. 1 oz. shot, #8 shot, 2 3/4", 3 dram EQ. F112 (whatever that is). As I said, the Federal Hi brass I was shooting at the bowling pins was #4 shot. They ran 25 for 25 no failures. When I get back from vacation I will look into some polishing and possibly profiling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 On which gas setting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cav01c14 4 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Try a 1911 colt recoil spring. It solved my issues on my 20 gauge. Only thing that worked for me at least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I man name for a gun? Weak Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 On which gas setting? I have a TAC 47 Auto Plug. I took it apart tonight and put it in a baggie with Hoppes bore cleaner and Letting it soak over night. I'm going to get some emery cloth tomorrow and polish the rails. I also may smooth out the hammer. It ran fine as it was (even with the CSS performance puck in backward) on hi brass rounds. I think it just needs a little TLC. The Auto Plug was pretty dirty too. Since my bolt and carrier have had the Pauly glass bolt polish, if I can't get it running, I think I'll send my trigger & hammer to Cobra. I want to take a shot at it myself first. I have a lighter recoil spring, but I'd rather not use it unless I have to. I man name for a gun? Weak Works for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I wouldn't use the lighter spring either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I Can't remember from your other threads whether you have checked your ports for obstructions or not, how many you have, and whether they are covered or not. I'd look at that, including cleaning up any burrs on the moving parts, and work on cleaning it all up, then try again before making too many modifications Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) I have already been down the road with the gas ports. When the gun was new it wouldn't hardly run at all. I finally took it down to the gas block. I have a 4 hole gun. I checked all 4 ports and verified they were clean and the right size. One or 2 holes were partially covered. I used a dremel and was able to unshroud them. Put it all back together and it ran much better. I added a TAC 47 Auto Plug and a CSS performance puck. I also sent my bolt & carrier to Pauly for a glass bolt polish. With all this, the gun was pretty reliable and would eat both hi and lo brass. I didn't have any more problems until I converted. It still runs hi brass fine but doesn't seem to like the lower power stuff-stovepipes. I have been conversing with Shannon at Cobra. He is suggesting I send him my bolt & carrier, hammer and trigger group and he will tune them all together. I am seriously considering this. I am also working on polishing my rails. Edited May 13, 2014 by goldenpony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 If you can polish your rails you could do your own fcg. Just clean things up and make sure nothing from your conversion is loose or otherwise altered what worked well before the conversion. Start from the top and work your way down. You've diy this far why stop now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PRISONSHANK 70 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 I agree. if you sorted out your ports, you may aswell tackle polishing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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