Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Stupic WA ???


  • Please log in to reply
16 replies to this topic

#1 TO THE FLOOR

TO THE FLOOR

    Ambassador of Confusion

  • Contributor
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,341 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Eastern, WA

Posted 30 June 2015 - 09:06 AM

what is the status of sbr's in Washington???


"Democracy is two wolfs and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin

#2 bernerz

bernerz

    Advanced Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 202 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:SW Washington

Posted 30 June 2015 - 11:03 AM

This was what I found.
http://apps.leg.wa.g...x?cite=9.41.190
What I take from that is you can now legally own an sbr, but you can't build one, can't loan it to anyone, still have to pay the fed tax stamp and application paperwork. Still can't have full auto or an sbs.
  • read_the_wall, HB of CJ and GunFun like this
Stupid hurts

#3 read_the_wall

read_the_wall

    Citizen

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,400 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:western washington

Posted 30 June 2015 - 05:39 PM

stupid Washington says it all


  • Dad2142Dad likes this
"To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic."
- Ted Nugent

The war is coming to the streets of America and if you are not keeping and bearing and practicing with your arms then you will be helpless and you will be the victim of evil.
Ted Nugent

#4 GunFun

GunFun

    Apparently, guy who has made way too many posts.

  • Contributor
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,328 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Washington

Posted 01 July 2015 - 03:17 AM

This was what I found.
http://apps.leg.wa.g...x?cite=9.41.190
What I take from that is you can now legally own an sbr, but you can't build one, can't loan it to anyone, still have to pay the fed tax stamp and application paperwork. Still can't have full auto or an sbs.

 

How do you figure you can't loan it? You can have multiple trustees or beneficiaries.... And you ought to be able to loan it to a Class III dealer, etc. too.


  • HB of CJ likes this

#5 bernerz

bernerz

    Advanced Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 202 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:SW Washington

Posted 02 July 2015 - 11:48 PM

I'm not a lawyer but unless you are specifically part of an nfa trust to which the sbr is owned, no touchy.
Stupid hurts

#6 GunFun

GunFun

    Apparently, guy who has made way too many posts.

  • Contributor
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,328 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Washington

Posted 03 July 2015 - 10:25 AM

I am not a lawyer, but I don't think you can be more a part of a trust than trustee or beneficiary.



#7 mancat

mancat

    Top Member

  • Contributor
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,800 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Seattle

Posted 08 July 2015 - 02:52 PM

Form 1 for SBRs were being denied and still may be questionable

 

Some moron do-gooder from WA DOL called the ATF and felt it necessary to inform them that the SBR law did explicitly not allow for manufacture of an SBR. ATF freaked out and denied a boatload of pending Form 1s, and still may not be approving any new ones.

 

http://www.ar15.com/..._folks____.html



#8 GunFun

GunFun

    Apparently, guy who has made way too many posts.

  • Contributor
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,328 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Washington

Posted 08 July 2015 - 07:32 PM

You can still get one made by a SOT II, whether small shop or national factory.  It just means the price goes up a hundred or two for the complicated process of sticking a pistol upper on a rifle lower.


  • HB of CJ likes this

#9 mancat

mancat

    Top Member

  • Contributor
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,800 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Seattle

Posted 13 July 2015 - 04:01 PM

Apparently ATF is now also denying transfers of NFA items from out of state, which stomps on the "loophole" that people were taking of having SBRs manufactured out of state and then transferred.

 

arfcom user NoloContendere, the attorney behind Hollis vs. Holder, appears to be gearing up to take the state to court over this issue.

 

http://www.ar15.com/...age=13#i6461468

 

additional shit from the thread, screenshot from eFile:

 

19363606038_db316274d3_b.jpg


Edited by mancat, 13 July 2015 - 04:02 PM.

  • GunFun likes this

#10 mancat

mancat

    Top Member

  • Contributor
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,800 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Seattle

Posted 13 July 2015 - 05:30 PM

it's strikingly similar to the stupid law we had on suppressors for several decades, whereby it was legal to possess a suppressor in WA, but illegal to discharge a firearm with a suppressor attached.


  • read_the_wall, HB of CJ and GunFun like this

#11 read_the_wall

read_the_wall

    Citizen

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,400 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:western washington

Posted 13 July 2015 - 06:23 PM

I'm waiting for them to figure this out so I can do a SBR..anger.gif


"To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic."
- Ted Nugent

The war is coming to the streets of America and if you are not keeping and bearing and practicing with your arms then you will be helpless and you will be the victim of evil.
Ted Nugent

#12 GunFun

GunFun

    Apparently, guy who has made way too many posts.

  • Contributor
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,328 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Washington

Posted 13 July 2015 - 10:41 PM

I'm waiting for them to figure this out so I can do a SBR..anger.gif

 

Just buy one made by a national manufacturer or an SOTII within the state. Problem solved. Hand the SOT-II your parts even.


or FFL III



#13 read_the_wall

read_the_wall

    Citizen

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,400 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:western washington

Posted 14 July 2015 - 05:19 PM

 

I'm waiting for them to figure this out so I can do a SBR..anger.gif

 

Just buy one made by a national manufacturer or an SOTII within the state. Problem solved. Hand the SOT-II your parts even.


or FFL III

 

I have a SP89 that I want to get a stock for ...... 

stupid Washington.......


"To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic."
- Ted Nugent

The war is coming to the streets of America and if you are not keeping and bearing and practicing with your arms then you will be helpless and you will be the victim of evil.
Ted Nugent

#14 GunFun

GunFun

    Apparently, guy who has made way too many posts.

  • Contributor
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,328 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Washington

Posted 14 July 2015 - 05:24 PM

Still better than it was a decade ago. We are still winning this fight.


  • read_the_wall and HB of CJ like this

#15 read_the_wall

read_the_wall

    Citizen

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,400 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:western washington

Posted 15 July 2015 - 08:52 PM

Still better than it was a decade ago. We are still winning this fight.

Yes, there is light at the end of the tunnel.


"To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic."
- Ted Nugent

The war is coming to the streets of America and if you are not keeping and bearing and practicing with your arms then you will be helpless and you will be the victim of evil.
Ted Nugent

#16 GunFun

GunFun

    Apparently, guy who has made way too many posts.

  • Contributor
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,328 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Washington

Posted 15 July 2015 - 09:00 PM

There will always be people trying to dig the next tunnel, but we can get out of this one.


  • read_the_wall likes this

#17 HB of CJ

HB of CJ

    Top Member

  • Contributor
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,550 posts

Posted 16 July 2015 - 05:54 PM

I hear you GunFun and thank you. HB






0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users