I have found some at gun shows for $20-$25. I like them because they take less time to fit to the .223 Saiga than the EGs. I find that more work has to be done to the steel ones. Also, the Bulgarians, at least the ones I have, haven't needed the bullet guide. Thje Weigers most definately need one installed. So, I have ordered one so that all of my mags will work.