turrican 3 Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 (edited) i am almost done wirth my conversion but I was wondering, do I need a regular FCG like a G2 or can the Saiga 12 group be moved forward and still work? I have 3 US parts for furniture and a US made 10 round mag so 922r isnt an issue. Would like to save a few bucks and use the standard stuff if possible. Also I have some old Romanian take off FCG's laying around I could use if they would work. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks, Mike Edited March 7, 2007 by turrican Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 (edited) i am almost done wirth my conversion but I was wondering, do I need a regular FCG like a G2 or can the Saiga 12 group be moved forward and still work? I have 3 US parts for furniture and a US made 10 round mag so 922r isnt an issue. Would like to save a few bucks and use the standard stuff if possible. Also I have some old Romanian take off FCG's laying around I could use if they would work. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks,Mike If you ever want to use ruskie 5-round mags (and they are a handier size) then it's better to pony up the $40 for a Tapco trigger group. And if anybody ever manages to import some 8-rounders then you'll REALLY wish you had a US FCG. Edited March 7, 2007 by XD45 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turrican 3 Posted March 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 i am almost done wirth my conversion but I was wondering, do I need a regular FCG like a G2 or can the Saiga 12 group be moved forward and still work? I have 3 US parts for furniture and a US made 10 round mag so 922r isnt an issue. Would like to save a few bucks and use the standard stuff if possible. Also I have some old Romanian take off FCG's laying around I could use if they would work. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks,Mike If you ever want to use ruskie 5-round mags (and they are a handier size) then it's better to pony up the $40 for a Tapco trigger group. And if anybody ever manages to import some 8-rounders then you'll REALLY wish you had a US FCG. Why wont the stock group work with the russian mags? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Red Jacket 329 Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 I'd just get the G2 and be done with it . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turrican 3 Posted March 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 So are you guys saying that a regular Romanian or Yugo FCG wont work? Sorry to be a PIA just trying to understand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 It's not that it won't work, it's about the foreign parts count which you need to keep below 10 when you do the conversion. The easiest way is to use the American made FCG. If you do a search on this site you will find the specific info about how to do conversions and the parts count issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reoiv 1 Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 i am almost done wirth my conversion but I was wondering, do I need a regular FCG like a G2 or can the Saiga 12 group be moved forward and still work? I have 3 US parts for furniture and a US made 10 round mag so 922r isnt an issue. Would like to save a few bucks and use the standard stuff if possible. Also I have some old Romanian take off FCG's laying around I could use if they would work. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks,Mike If you aren't worried about 922r then go ahead and use the Romanian FCG. As long as you are under 10 parts it shouldn't be an issue. Just don't plan on using anything other than the 10 rounders.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turrican 3 Posted March 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 i am almost done wirth my conversion but I was wondering, do I need a regular FCG like a G2 or can the Saiga 12 group be moved forward and still work? I have 3 US parts for furniture and a US made 10 round mag so 922r isnt an issue. Would like to save a few bucks and use the standard stuff if possible. Also I have some old Romanian take off FCG's laying around I could use if they would work. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks,Mike If you aren't worried about 922r then go ahead and use the Romanian FCG. As long as you are under 10 parts it shouldn't be an issue. Just don't plan on using anything other than the 10 rounders.... I have a US muzzle break, pistol grip, stock, and handguard. I think I shoud be good. That with a US made mag puts me at 7 parts Thats more then I have on my AK's! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keyser223 0 Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 (edited) Yes the other fcg's you mentioned should work, but what the others were saying above is, if you don't use a US FCG , then you will not legally be able to use any of the factory magazines. Of course the Russian mags will still function, but the gun would then not be compliant. You would be limited to using the 10 round AGP mags. Edited March 8, 2007 by keyser Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Spring for a G2, polish it up, and your good to go. The three compliance parts is just an after thought. A polished G2 has a very nice single stage feel, not as good as the Redstar, but the Redstar is overkill for the s12 and the set screws tend to loosen up over time. Romanians are known for trigger slap issues, and frankly aren't worth spending the time to tweek with the base price of a G2 in the $35 range and don't have the compliace part benefit. Personally, while your at it, buck up for a pin retaining plate just for ease of use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Genocide 0 Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 pin retaining plate just for ease of use. Can you inform me on what a pin retaining plate is? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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reoiv 1 Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 pin retaining plate just for ease of use. Can you inform me on what a pin retaining plate is? This thing http://www.tapco.com/proddesc.aspx?id=a6d8...18-95fc4a96e9ab They even sell a Trigger group with the plate http://www.tapco.com/proddesc.aspx?id=d38c...60-4eae4cc2afa7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 While we are talking about it, what type of FCG is the preferred unit for the Saiga-12. Single hook or Double Hook? I am thinking about the Tapco AK G2 Double Hook FCG & Locking Plate referenced above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 While we are talking about it, what type of FCG is the preferred unit for the Saiga-12. Single hook or Double Hook? I am thinking about the Tapco AK G2 Double Hook FCG & Locking Plate referenced above. Why make things more complicated than necessary? Single hook is usually the way to go with the S12. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 I use double hook for personal preference. I make a minor mod to the receiver to allow it to work. And the G2 FCG alone is reason enough to do the conversion. I can't imagine a conversion without one. What handguard are you using that's US made? Halo? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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