greatmoose 4 Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 (edited) I have no idea if this would work, but I can't find any faults in the logic. Could I mount this to my 308? I was thinking of putting the front sight right smack on top of the gas block, and the rear sight towards the rear of the dust cover, kinda like Tromix's HK sights. Am I missing something as to why this wouldn't work? Oh, it's a Zephyr sighting system for a 10/22. On my rifle, they'd really just for back up as it'll be scoped most of the time. Edited March 27, 2007 by greatmoose Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longhunter-CO 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 I have no idea if this would work, but I can't find any faults in the logic. Could I mount this to my 308? I was thinking of putting the front sight right smack on top of the gas block, and the rear sight towards the rear of the dust cover, kinda like Tromix's HK sights. Am I missing something as to why this wouldn't work? Oh, it's a Zephyr sighting system for a 10/22. On my rifle, they'd really just for back up as it'll be scoped most of the time. Are the Saiga gas blocks cast steel (probably)or milled. How are you going to tack the front sight to the block? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greatmoose 4 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 (edited) Not entirely sure. I've got several ideas floating around in my head, the easiest being to simply silver-solder it on. I also thought about making a small dovetail so it would remain adjustable. Another option might be to make a couple of small divots in the top of the gas block and put two screws thru the flanges of the sight, and then tavk on. Of course, there's always JB-Weld! WECSOG, Ahoy! Edited March 27, 2007 by greatmoose Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter78 1 Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 What I did front sight What you could do for a rear rear sight For a rear peep sight I just used the williams peep sight from cheaperthandirt that replaced the factory slide. works nice with sight on gb and lines up fast and easy. Nothing to get in the way of my 40mm scope either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
czgunner 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 I just bought a G3 front sight assembly, and am going to experiment with cutting the lower pieces off and mounting the sight to the gas block. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greatmoose 4 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Hunter78, I actually saw those posts, that's what gave me the idea. Only problem is, I don't have access to a real welder. That AR sight setup is pretty cool! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greatmoose 4 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Is there any reason why silver solder wouldn't work? I figure if it works for muzzle brakes, it ought to work just fine for a front sight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ironhead7544 35 Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Im not sure about this but I think those sights are plastic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ironhead7544 35 Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 http://www.tech-sights.com/ruger3.htm Check out these sights> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greatmoose 4 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 The Zepher sights are aluminum. Wait, can you solder aluminum? Those techsights are cool, kinda pricey though (for me). I may keep that in mind, however. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter78 1 Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 I didn't use a welder I brazed the sight on with a oxy/acytlene tourch. Hardpart was grinding the front sight to fit. I'm sure if you ground the sight down and removed the gas block you could find someone to braze it for you, It wasn't as hard as I thought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greatmoose 4 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 OK, thanks Hunter, I may give that a try. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve in Allentown, PA 5 Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 I like the HK sights that Tromix uses. The front sight blade can be replaced with tritium, if you want. The rear sight has a curved underside that fits nicely on the dust cover while the front sight needs to be cut midway down the middle circle which is then welded/brazed to the gas block. I have two complete sets of fully functional HK sights that I'm not going to use. I'm more than happy to sell them for a bit less than I paid for them. $58 per set to a good home and I'll pay the postage. Here are some pics of the sights. (I used a piece of my kid's construction paper as the backdrop) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter78 1 Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 I realy don't think you are going to solder aluminum to steel very well. Epoxy (Jb weld or such) (I wouldn't) or drill and tap (I wouldn't on a gas block) If you don't want to do like I did. Ace will have their clamp-on front sights again on the first of may they told me via email. It looks ok and might be your best option. ACE AK acessories look at those and there is some pictures in there customer gallery. I think you would need the small size, but check. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greatmoose 4 Posted March 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Yeah, my original plan was to go with the ACE setup, and I may still do that. I'm just getting impatient! NOBODY has thier sights in stock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greatmoose 4 Posted March 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Steve, those sights are sweet. I'd considered that setup, but it's a little clunky for me, as my scope won't clear the rear sight. Not a bad idea, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
S-12inWV 1 Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Check out the MOJO Peep Sights...google it. I put one on mine and it looks good and tightened my groups at 100 yrds... You can't go wrong with them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
czgunner 0 Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 This may be way too involved, but considering how the reciever cover mounted sights move so much...Has anybody thought about modifying an AK side scope mount to be extremely low sitting and mounting a rear sight that way? Granted you would have to remove it to field strip the gun, but it would return to zero every time. In fact, you could probably put a weaver rail on it and mount a short red dot A LA AR15 BUIS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
czgunner 0 Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 I like the HK sights that Tromix uses. The front sight blade can be replaced with tritium, if you want. The rear sight has a curved underside that fits nicely on the dust cover while the front sight needs to be cut midway down the middle circle which is then welded/brazed to the gas block. I have two complete sets of fully functional HK sights that I'm not going to use. I'm more than happy to sell them for a bit less than I paid for them. $58 per set to a good home and I'll pay the postage. Here are some pics of the sights. (I used a piece of my kid's construction paper as the backdrop) That front sight is the same that I mentioned earlier. They've got them here for pretty cheap. http://www.robertrtg.com/g3.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
studmuff1228 0 Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 How do you adjust these things for elevation? Do they have to be set up just right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greatmoose 4 Posted March 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 The Zepher's rear sight is adjustable for both elev and wind. The other options are separately adjustable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve in Allentown, PA 5 Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 How do you adjust these things for elevation? Do they have to be set up just right? The rear sight is typical German engineering which means you just can't twist here and there to bring things into alignment. The rear sight is adjustable for windage and elevation. Windage is adjusted by loosening the large set screw you can see at the top rear of the sight then using a screwdriver to turn a smaller screw on the right sight of the sight. This will move the sight left or right. As for elevation, there is a special HK tool (or you can use a pair of needle nose pliars) that slips over the drum and down onto the base which disengages the locking tabs thus enabling you to turn the drum assembly up or down. There is not an unlimited amount of travel available for windage and elevation so the sights do have to be installed pretty close to where they should be. The trade off for going through the trouble of correctly installing them is that they look great and, more importantly, work great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
studmuff1228 0 Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 How do you adjust these things for elevation? Do they have to be set up just right? The rear sight is typical German engineering which means you just can't twist here and there to bring things into alignment. The rear sight is adjustable for windage and elevation. Windage is adjusted by loosening the large set screw you can see at the top rear of the sight then using a screwdriver to turn a smaller screw on the right sight of the sight. This will move the sight left or right. As for elevation, there is a special HK tool (or you can use a pair of needle nose pliars) that slips over the drum and down onto the base which disengages the locking tabs thus enabling you to turn the drum assembly up or down. There is not an unlimited amount of travel available for windage and elevation so the sights do have to be installed pretty close to where they should be. The trade off for going through the trouble of correctly installing them is that they look great and, more importantly, work great. wow.. great thanks, I have always wonderd =) p.s. we should probably let people know about there peep sight options. B/c it does seem pritty popular.... just my 2 pennies Quote Link to post Share on other sites
racolqui 19 Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 Not entirely sure. I've got several ideas floating around in my head, the easiest being to simply silver-solder it on. I also thought about making a small dovetail so it would remain adjustable. Another option might be to make a couple of small divots in the top of the gas block and put two screws thru the flanges of the sight, and then tavk on. Of course, there's always JB-Weld! WECSOG, Ahoy! Glad to see another person how knows the "the Dark Tower", one of my favorite book series. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 Not entirely sure. I've got several ideas floating around in my head, the easiest being to simply silver-solder it on. I also thought about making a small dovetail so it would remain adjustable. Another option might be to make a couple of small divots in the top of the gas block and put two screws thru the flanges of the sight, and then tavk on. Of course, there's always JB-Weld! WECSOG, Ahoy! Glad to see another person how knows the "the Dark Tower", one of my favorite book series. Uhhh, he posted that over 4 years ago... Nice The Dark Tower series was pretty cool, up until the "end" anyway, (buncha bullshit, worse than the last episode of The Sopranos). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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