Should buffers be avoided in S12s?

[AK-308 2]

I thought I remembered Tony saying we should avoid them? Can't recall for sure though...

[kresk 10,063]

A buffer can cause short cycling. AK's have worked for sixty years without them==>probably not necessary.

[Garys4598 1,065]

A buffer can cause short cycling. AK's have worked for sixty years without them==>probably not necessary.

What tritium said.

 

Yep, I recall the same thing as you; Tony doesn't recommend them.

[GTwannabe 1]

I've been running a green Blackjack buffer in my Saiga-12 since I bought it. No cycling problems at all; even low-brass runs fine on #1 gas setting.

[TonyRumore 1,332]

It can cause cycling problems in some S-12's, especially the thick buffers.

Almost every time I have a customer call and complain about their new Tromix shotgun jamming all the time, I ask them if they put a recoil buffer in it. The answer is predominately "Yes".

 

Tony

[dinzag 31]

Agreed, my ported one will run with one, but the factory ones tend to snag from time to time.

 

If you have your gas regulator set properly you shouldn't see any rear trunnion hammering.

(when it's hard to remove the recoil spring)

[DHunter 1]

I've ran blackjack buffers in mine since day one with no problems also.

I picked the blackjack buffer because they are the thinnest ones out there, thus least likely to short cycle.

 

I've also put one in my PSL. Since the most common failure in that rifle is cracked receivers due to the force of the bolt impacting the back of the receiver.

So far the blackjack has caused no cycling problems in the PSL either.

[Cobra 76 two 2,677]

I've ran blackjack buffers in mine since day one with no problems also.

I picked the blackjack buffer because they are the thinnest ones out there, thus least likely to short cycle.

 

I've also put one in my PSL. Since the most common failure in that rifle is cracked receivers due to the force of the bolt impacting the back of the receiver.

So far the blackjack has caused no cycling problems in the PSL either.

Thanks for that little bit of info there. I will put one in mine too if that's the case.

 

I've run buffers in most of my AKs and Saigas without any problems. A little extra protection never hurts.

[DavePAL84 1]

I had a buffer in mine--until this passed Sunday. About 70 shells in the carrier would get stuck to rear after every shot. Took off the buffer, no more problems.

[topmaul 42]

I have seen guns have trouble with buffers, what I have done was make my own out of 1/4 inch rubber gasket material, the work and soften the recoil IMHO. On the down side they only last around 300 rounds.

[G O B 3,516]

I have BJ's in my Saiga's. They don't seem to mind BJ's.

[RPD 0]

I've got a Buffer tech Ak one in mine, no jams or complaints.