AK-308 2 Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 I thought I remembered Tony saying we should avoid them? Can't recall for sure though... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 A buffer can cause short cycling. AK's have worked for sixty years without them==>probably not necessary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 A buffer can cause short cycling. AK's have worked for sixty years without them==>probably not necessary. What tritium said. Yep, I recall the same thing as you; Tony doesn't recommend them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GTwannabe 1 Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 I've been running a green Blackjack buffer in my Saiga-12 since I bought it. No cycling problems at all; even low-brass runs fine on #1 gas setting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 It can cause cycling problems in some S-12's, especially the thick buffers. Almost every time I have a customer call and complain about their new Tromix shotgun jamming all the time, I ask them if they put a recoil buffer in it. The answer is predominately "Yes". Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dinzag 31 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Agreed, my ported one will run with one, but the factory ones tend to snag from time to time. If you have your gas regulator set properly you shouldn't see any rear trunnion hammering. (when it's hard to remove the recoil spring) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DHunter 1 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I've ran blackjack buffers in mine since day one with no problems also. I picked the blackjack buffer because they are the thinnest ones out there, thus least likely to short cycle. I've also put one in my PSL. Since the most common failure in that rifle is cracked receivers due to the force of the bolt impacting the back of the receiver. So far the blackjack has caused no cycling problems in the PSL either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I've ran blackjack buffers in mine since day one with no problems also.I picked the blackjack buffer because they are the thinnest ones out there, thus least likely to short cycle. I've also put one in my PSL. Since the most common failure in that rifle is cracked receivers due to the force of the bolt impacting the back of the receiver. So far the blackjack has caused no cycling problems in the PSL either. Thanks for that little bit of info there. I will put one in mine too if that's the case. I've run buffers in most of my AKs and Saigas without any problems. A little extra protection never hurts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavePAL84 1 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I had a buffer in mine--until this passed Sunday. About 70 shells in the carrier would get stuck to rear after every shot. Took off the buffer, no more problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
topmaul 42 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I have seen guns have trouble with buffers, what I have done was make my own out of 1/4 inch rubber gasket material, the work and soften the recoil IMHO. On the down side they only last around 300 rounds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 I have BJ's in my Saiga's. They don't seem to mind BJ's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RPD 0 Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 I've got a Buffer tech Ak one in mine, no jams or complaints. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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