CaptainSwitchblade 0 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 After reading a lot of different threads on different forums I'm begging to think I got tooled on my Saiga 7.62. Used 2008 , already converted to pistol grip with tapco parts, tapco trigger, and welded in bullet guide(which I haven't seen before). I payed $850 including tax. On the other hand I found a nicely abused WASR at another shop for $600. On the upside I love shooting this thing and its been nothing but fun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DL762AP 0 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 With the prices on AK rifles now, you didn't do too bad. I have seen converted ones going for $1000++ I just paid $419 for a new Non-coverted one. The place that I bought mine from had a converted one for $800. If you like it, then the price wasn't bad. It all depends on what you like. Yours is exactly what mine will look like when I convert it(if I ever do) Anyways, nice rifle! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWho 10 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 yeah i just paid 420 on sunday for an unconverted one. but i tell you it is a nice shooter... now i just need my s12 drilled for 2 more holes.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Close up pic of that welded in bullet guide, who did the conversion? These I think will determine if you got hosed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mstranglr 9 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Hard to see good from the pic, but that bullet guide looks pretty damn jagged, almost like a peice of scrap metal welded in there. If it works fine than you should be OK, but that is pretty sloppy for an $800 build IMO. Who did that conversion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainSwitchblade 0 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) Sorry about the quality of the pics I'm using a higher end webcam but it is still grainy. The guide has a beveled edge its a little rough but I figure this is from use. As far as who converted it I have no idea. But other than the bullet guide everything else seems like it was done properly other than the mag wiggling a little bit. Edited January 6, 2009 by CaptainSwitchblade Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 It may just be the pic but it almost looks to me like someone tried to weld it in there and did a nasty job of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainSwitchblade 0 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 You are correct it is in fact welded in place. I don't know if its worth trying to clean the weld up a little or removing the guide completely and doing it the right way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 If you can get in there with a dremel and a grinding wheel, or course sanding drum, you may be able to clean it up some. I would polish the leading edge at least. As long as it's feeding fine, and isn't loose, I guess there's no need to go through all would take to R&R it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 To answer your initial question: yes, you took one in the rear. If you live in a state with a 30 day refund policy, I would suggest returning it ASAP. You can get the same model from atlantic firearms for $629 ( http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/beta/storeproduct433.aspx ) and for $475 from classicarms (they will not have them in stock until who knows when though). But still $800 is to much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ernestmayhand 10 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 A month ago my friend payed $450 for his (I got to tell him "I told you so" cause I got mine a couple months earlier for $350 and he was with me saying "oh I'll get one of these some day"). Add $175 for parts mostly from Dinzag and a couple hours to do the job in my garage...I'd feel like I got ripped if I was in your shoes but hey it's money spent and I'm sure you'll enjoy the gun. Only recourse I can see is to go buy a S12 (or whatever other Saiga you don't have, if you don't have others) and do the conversion yourself and you'll see how easy it is and learn something too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainSwitchblade 0 Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I don't think I will return it but chalk it up as a lesson learned. Black rifles in my area in particular have jumped up in price. AR15 used to be around $900 and now they are all over $1100. Then like I stated that WASR or whatever it was was $600 in bad shape at another shop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whitetrashrn 74 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I wouldn't feel too bad about the price. I had "EXPERT" friends (every one knows these guys, never shot an AK but Experts) tell me that to own an AK it was going to at least cost me $700 to $800. I go and buy a WASR 10 "NIB" from Century for $400 thinking I go a great deal on an ak. Winds up a Wasr 10 at that time could have been had for $250.Wanted to take it back. I took it to the range and all the pain was gone after the first clip. Did my homework, joined forums kept my ears open. Now I finished 2 Kit builds and I have 2 amd 65's with the origional barrels. OH and a7.62 Saiga converted. Keep your chin up and shoot the ass off of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I wouldn't feel too bad about the price. I had "EXPERT" friends (every one knows these guys, never shot an AK but Experts) tell me that to own an AK it was going to at least cost me $700 to $800. I go and buy a WASR 10 "NIB" from Century for $400 thinking I go a great deal on an ak. Winds up a Wasr 10 at that time could have been had for $250.Wanted to take it back. I took it to the range and all the pain was gone after the first clip. Did my homework, joined forums kept my ears open. Now I finished 2 Kit builds and I have 2 amd 65's with the origional barrels. OH and a7.62 Saiga converted. Keep your chin up and shoot the ass off of it. I got hosed bad on my first rifle...never will set foot in that shop again. I do my homework now, we all gotta start somewhere and nobody was instantly born with all the knowledge in the world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I got both of my x39's (we're talking unconverted here) for $300 each, at different times. During those times, $300 was on the high end of what they were going for. Now, less than a year after I bought my last x39, they're going for much more. So I agree with your plan. Chalk it up as a lesson learned. Next time you want to buy something, ask here, and someone will be able to give you a ballpark estimate of what you should be paying. Not even just about AK's. There's lots of helpful, knowledgeable guys here that can offer up some info on pricing and/or if you should even buy it . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superA 289 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Just enjoy it. Almost no amount of money is worth wasting one good day with worry or regret. What's done is done. In six months it may seem like a bargain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GimmeLiberty 0 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Well, you got one anyway. A lot of folk can't even locate one to buy. I had to visit 2 local shops every week for months and months until I finally got a hold of my 7.62x39 and S12. I managed to get the 7.62 used for $275 about 6 months ago, but the S12 just kept creeping up and up in price until I was finally able to get the only Siaga that was delivered to the shop in the entire month a few weeks ago. I paid the going rate, but it still makes you sick when you see what they were selling for compared to 2004/2005. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mstranglr 9 Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 My first 4 saigas were all under $280, and thats in the PRK. I bought up a dozen different AK parts kits back then too for under $100 a pc. In retrospect, that was some great investing on my part. The last 2 I bought were a Saiga .308 for $550 and an Arsenal SGL-10 for just over $600. The days of cheap fun are over! Maybe I need to go Kyber Pass style; melt down some pots and pans, pound and stamp out my own AK! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainSwitchblade 0 Posted January 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Thanks for the info everybody. To be honest I didn't even know what it was when I got it. They had it marked as a Russian Ak47 so it caught my attention since I was in the market for a black gun. I picked it up and inspected it and everything seemed right about it so I put half of the money down and paid it off in two weeks. When I got it home I looked up the markings and learned what I had. So the Friday after X-mas I go to the range and put around 100 rounds through it at the 100yd range (everything else was full). I had a blast and fell in love with it. Happy shooting guys and gals. Oh yeah I will keep you updated on my progress with it too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
topmaul 42 Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 (edited) Holy Crap I paid $275 for mine then did the coversion myself. Of course that was a few years ago. Edited January 8, 2009 by topmaul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SJgunguy 5 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I had someone offer me 800$ for my unconverted 7.62. Naaa I don't sell guns, my 03 says i'm a "collector" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvasqu03 21 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 A bit pricey for a converted gun but not outside the realm of possibility. Especially these days. Just enjoy the fact someone did the work for you & shoot the hell out of it. You didn't get a bargain but you didn't get completely hosed either, just paid a bit more than some. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superA 289 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Better than paying 2000+ for a yugo underfolder like some guy did recently on gun broker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NYMini 1 Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Better than paying 2000+ for a yugo underfolder like some guy did recently on gun broker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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