Moe Zambeak 53 Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 (edited) I was just wondering if anyone has tried one of these optic mounts: I saw a link to them on another forum, and thought I would ask here. BTW, I don't think any of our vendors sell this item, so I hope I am not in violation of the rules. Thanks. ETA another pic of it mounted: Edited September 11, 2009 by Moe Zambeak Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rockina 60 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 I for one haven't seen this before...looks interesting, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Botasky1 3 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 This is an actual sight similar to an eotech. Its pretty compact and allows for a co-witness of the iron sights of an ak or saiga platform. I've just ordered one a few days ago and intend on posting some pros and cons here in a week or so. It seems like a great alternative to having to add a sight rail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fxhart 14 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 It's a Burris Fastfire mounted on a Larue Tactical mount. Here's a good review on ARFCOM. This sight has been on my list for a long time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThePants 1 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 That's gonna be my next purchase. Fairly affordable and a great design making up for all of the old AK optics probs. First one who gets one give us a first hand review, I can't wait to hear it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Problem I have with it is being locked in to the optics they choose. Not sure hold the optic is attached to the mount and not interested in blowing 300.00 to find out. Step in the right direction getting the profile down but will wait for someone with money to blow on it writing it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fxhart 14 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Problem I have with it is being locked in to the optics they choose. Not sure hold the optic is attached to the mount and not interested in blowing 300.00 to find out. Step in the right direction getting the profile down but will wait for someone with money to blow on it writing it up. A Burris is one of the 'cheaper' mini red dot's on the market but I'm sure if there was a problem with it we would hear about it. This is the internet after all. You can now get a Doctor optic if you would like too. There are two earth magnets in the mount right above where the rear sight base is that help to keep it attached to the gun. Plus Larue doesn't make crap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 if you are gonna run a dot... this or an ultimak the best set up IMO.... you can still shoot Irons of optic fails.... and you can co witness... stable optics no sloppy hand guard or dust cover mount... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe Zambeak 53 Posted September 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 When I first saw this thing I felt like smacking myself in the head *why didn't I think of that!?!?!* I'm going to see if I can talk Santa into getting me one this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evi1joe 1 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 As far as I know this unit is still being shipped with the ORIGINAL Burris Fastfire, which isn't waterproof--many people have complained about it failing in light rain (and the dot either pulsating in light/dark transitions or washing out in bright light). The Burris FASTFIRE II, however, IS waterproof, but I don't think LaRue is shipping with that model. Also, last I heard there was a long wait (like six months) to get one of these. Botasky1--did they say it would ship? I was waiting for them to come out with the FastFire II version before I got one. If only the Samson rear-sight mount was lower and/or easily removable, I'd get that and put a Trijicon RMR or some other mini-dot like the Fastfire II. I've got the tech-sights rear aperture sight, so I don't need the middle back-up irons anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fxhart 14 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 From Larue Tacticals Website; Features: - Docter or Burris FastFire MRD Optic (make selection to the right) - Weight: Approx 3.5 oz. - Steel Backbone - Integral rear iron sight Docter Combo Price: $535.95 Burris FastFire Combo Price: $285.00 My guess for them using the cheaper sight is because it's an AK. I'm sure there was demand for a better sight and that's why the Docter is an option now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evi1joe 1 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 I've heard good things about the FastFire II, and I'd never pay $535 for a mini-red dot (but then, I'd only pay $300-$350 or so for any red-dot, even the mighty T-1). Due to the addition of a rubber cover on the bottom, it would raise up the sight a bit and throw off the co-witness. I wish someone would make a mount just like this with a quick detach option, so that the cowitness wouldn't be as big of a deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 That is a nice clean solution to mouning a red dot on an AK! I like it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jailbait 2 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 i've seen like 10 for sale on the arfcom EE. don't know what that reflects, just throwing it out there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
protected static 19 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 As far as I know this unit is still being shipped with the ORIGINAL Burris Fastfire, which isn't waterproof--many people have complained about it failing in light rain (and the dot either pulsating in light/dark transitions or washing out in bright light). The Burris FASTFIRE II, however, IS waterproof, but I don't think LaRue is shipping with that model. Also, last I heard there was a long wait (like six months) to get one of these. Botasky1--did they say it would ship? I was waiting for them to come out with the FastFire II version before I got one. If only the Samson rear-sight mount was lower and/or easily removable, I'd get that and put a Trijicon RMR or some other mini-dot like the Fastfire II. I've got the tech-sights rear aperture sight, so I don't need the middle back-up irons anyway. Someone recently (w/in the last month or so) posted here that LaRue told them they're shipping with the FastFire II. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOWARD COSELL 155 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 (edited) This is an actual sight similar to an eotech. Its pretty compact and allows for a co-witness of the iron sights of an ak or saiga platform. I've just ordered one a few days ago and intend on posting some pros and cons here in a week or so. It seems like a great alternative to having to add a sight rail. Any pros and cons yet? I'm curious how the glass on it compares to the Eotech's. Edited October 27, 2009 by THE RIPPER Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 (edited) The following weblink will take you to some wanker's review of this product, conducted during November 2008: LT AK IronDot Actually, the dude wasn't a wanker; he performed a rather detailed review with many pleasing photos. If you're interested in this optic & mount combination (ummm... as I may be), I recommend reading this guy's review. Oh, and here is another product review, written-up during late January 2009 by the dude that runs the "militarymorons.com' military equipment review website. The review is located approximately half-way down the page: LaRue Tactical AK IronDot MRD . . Edited October 27, 2009 by Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 (edited) The following are some pics from the military morons website: Edited October 27, 2009 by Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Interesting.... I am unable to locate via websearch a single online supplier for this item. It's not within the Larue Tactical store site either. Do you suppose that it has been discontinued already??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Interesting.... I am unable to locate via websearch a single online supplier for this item. It's not within the Larue Tactical store site either. Do you suppose that it has been discontinued already??? Hiya Gary! I contacted LaRue Tactical for you and received the following response. I hope you find it to be of benefit. 1911 Sir, We pulled it from the website so as not to stack up any more backorders, it's being redesigned. Burris and Docter changed the shape of the optics when they upgraded them and the AK Iron Dot wouldn't fit the new ones. While they were changing the mount to fit they decided to add some user-suggested upgrades so it fit more rifles, better. We should be restarting production late winter/early spring. Thanks, Brian Fulton LaRue Tactical 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thehopping1 105 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Thanks for doing the leg work 1911. I have been wanting one of these for a while and couldn't figure out why they would stop selling them. Guess I'll wait a little longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 1911 -- Dude, you friggen ROCK!!! Thank you so much for contacting LaRue and obtaining an answer from them. Their answer back to you, I receive as being very good news. FANTASTIC!!! Once I receive my GoGun Saiga IZ-240 Rifle from Esteban, I'm definitely going to purchase this optic set-up and give it a whirl. From what I've been able to uncover via the internet thus far. . . . This particular mount and MRD arrangement seems to be the friggen cats pajamas... Thanks again 1911! ~Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe Zambeak 53 Posted October 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 1911 is the man! Thanks for the update!!!!! :super: :super: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evi1joe 1 Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Yep. The reply I got from Larue (about a month ago) was as follows: Because of the waterproofing of the new Burris Fast Fire II, it doesn't fit our mount, so we are experiencing an extreme delay on the AK Iron Dot. The delay is due to the mount's been designed specifically for the Burris Fast Fire I. The Burris Fast Fire I was discontinued and replaced with the Fast Fire II without our knowledge. We have to redesign, prototype, and test the new design to ensure that it meets the same standards as our original mount, and those of all LaRue Tactical products. We are currently anticipating six to seven months before the new design will be ready for shipping. Again I apologize for the inconvenience, and would like to remind you that you will not be charged for your order until the day it ships. I am sorry for the inconvenience, if you need further assistance please feel free to email me or give me a call, I'm more than happy to assist you in any way I can. v/r Tyler Guyett LaRue Tactical / APPI -- I'm waiting for their next round of mounts for the Burris Fastfire II...I wish I could afford the Aimpoint T-1/H-1 since they're supposedly working on a mount for that as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve_Feist 1 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I have had a La RUe Iron Dot on backorder since June 09. I got the same song & dance from La Rue that they were re-designing the mount due to some changes by Burris. They don't expect to start shipping again until Mar. 09. I had heard through the grapevine that they were shipping these sights to the Special Forces in Afganistan. I don't know if that is indeed the case or not. However, I suspect that Uncle Sam pays a lot more than $300 for these. I'm all for supporting the troops! Just put a freeze on new Civi orders until their production capacity catches up with demand. Zonie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve_Feist 1 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Oops! I meant to say March 2010 Zonie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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