Tate 0 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 New design factory 20 rd stick magazines. Made in Italy. Tested at IPSC European Shotgun Championship Match 2009 Price tag was umh.. pretty expensive, 300 euros each. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BUFF_dragon 3 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 HOLY CRAP you have to be joking..... the 10 rounders are too long for my person tastes (eventhough I own and use them) the 13rounders are so long they're breaking the lips due to hard recoil and the weight they're holding out there in mid-air.... there is NO WAY one of those could be easy to manuever... just too long and 'gangly', hell its almost as long as the gun, and has to be longer than one of Tony's 8" versions.... I'm just in absolute SHOCK, if you want that many rounds and want to develope a mag to hold it, go drum or stack mag.... that thing would get hung on every corner you tried to manuever around in a force-on-force situation.... I'm just in awe of that... HOLY CRAP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 This one holds 24. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BUFF_dragon 3 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 I guess I can see how the megwell would help to keep them from breaking, but really, how easy is it to manuever one of those things around??? have to have a seperate rifle case just to transport them to the range? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YARP 300 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 24rds.....giggity......LOL! I like the way you Tromix guys think! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BpS12 512 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Hey, what ever happen to the Belt Feed someone was supposed to be working on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sudaevpps43 31 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 HOLY CRAP you have to be joking..... the 10 rounders are too long for my person tastes (eventhough I own and use them) the 13rounders are so long they're breaking the lips due to hard recoil and the weight they're holding out there in mid-air.... there is NO WAY one of those could be easy to manuever... just too long and 'gangly', hell its almost as long as the gun, and has to be longer than one of Tony's 8" versions.... I'm just in absolute SHOCK, if you want that many rounds and want to develope a mag to hold it, go drum or stack mag.... that thing would get hung on every corner you tried to manuever around in a force-on-force situation.... I'm just in awe of that... HOLY CRAP To me a 20 round stick mag would definitely seem to be way too long to be practical for serious social work like home-defense, but in an IPSC shooting competition where the shooter is outdoors and there is plenty of room to maneuver I don't think it would be an issue. A 20 round drum would give the same capacity while being a lot shorter, but a 20 round stick mag, even though it is very long, would probably make for just a bit faster mag change, since it's easier to grab ahold of and manipulate a stick mag than a drum, and competitive shooters like to save every fraction of a second that they can during a mag change. So in competitive shooting at least I think these long stick mags have a role to serve. The price is pretty extreme though, and not the kind of money I would be willing to spend on a stick mag, but then I don't shoot competitively either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolverine 10,360 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 The perfect solution to a non-existent problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigj480 203 Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Hey, what ever happen to the Belt Feed someone was supposed to be working on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 The P in IPSC used to mean Pactical. Apparently anything goes in IPSC today. How will this be practical? Sometimes IPSC shooters have exotic guns built and forget their practicality to enhance their shooting game. I used to shoot in 1979-80 before the exotic guns came on the scene and modifications back then were accurizing the pistol, adding better sights or an ambidextrous safety or the longer safety for their .45s. Some of the shooters were police officers who used their service guns and one highway patrolman used his S&W Model 19 revolver to compete against the auto pistols. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nitrowing 0 Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Hey, what ever happen to the Belt Feed someone was supposed to be working on? Now that would burn a hole in my wallet! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Don't forget, with the "Frankencycle" the possibilties are endless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheGeneral 3 Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Thanks, but no thanks. I'd rather a drum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bearhead 2 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 ok.. lets go skeet shooting with the mag with the wheel... that would be interesting... I'd rather use a 20-30 round drum than such a long mag... why not have a double stack mag... it would much more practical than such a long mag... the technology for double stack has been around for a long time... just make it big enough for 12 guage... or atleast .20 or .410... that'd be cool... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BUFF_dragon 3 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 actually, from the standpoint of a doublestack, it is ALOT harder than you think, I have looked into it. you have to have a channel for the rim on the back of the shell, and that causes issues when you start staggering rounds, they twist and jam.... not sayin it can't be done (please someone figure it out) but it sure as hell aint easy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tover26 18 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 The wheel mount is ingenious. Put another wheel for a wheeled tripod and you could carry the belt feed around too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ragnar 10 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 (edited) The wheel mount is ingenious. Put another wheel for a wheeled tripod and you could carry the belt feed around too! Speaking of tripods, I looked at getting one of those wheels for my "gun" but it would not fit through my fly. Edited November 18, 2009 by Ragnar Danneskjöld Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltham_41 52 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 AFAIK there is no magwell out for the drum yet, so the guy is one up on us there. That is one long sob though. And I have seen a workable 12 gauge belt fed weapon being fired on youtube. No shit, no fake. A real belt fed 12 gauge automatic weapon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 The wheel mount is ingenious. Put another wheel for a wheeled tripod and you could carry the belt feed around too! I think next I'll add a fender, clearance lights, saddle bags, and a curb feeler. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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