TO THE FLOOR IN A 63 121 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) I am thinking I would like to purchase a new rifle...and an AK comes to mind but obviously I don't know shit about them. First of all I thought all AK's had a pistol grip like the old Norinkos or polytechs...obvioulsy I am wrong. So do people buy them in sporter conviguration and convert them like the s12?? Or is that just the saigas?? Second Next I thought all AK's were 7.62 x 39...obviously there are a bunch of other calibers and I think 308 would have more knock down but which caliber is/will be easy to obtain and relatively cheap?? 7.62 x 39??Lastly How does a saiga stack up next to a romanian one or a bulgarian one or any other one???Thanks. Sorry I didn't know whether to post this here or in the general section...Sorry if it's in the wrong place. Edited December 11, 2009 by TO THE FLOOR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mav 459 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Far as I know, only Saiga's come in sporter form. Yes, there are several calibers, 5.45x39, 5.56x45(223), 7.62x39, and 7.62x51(308), there are probably others, but those are the most common. IMHO a converted Saiga, providing the conversion is done well, is the equal, if not better the bulgy's or romy's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vbrtrmn 167 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 5.45x39 ammo is pretty cheap these days, you can get a 1080 can for about $130. http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Russian_5.45x39_FMJ.html One of the main draws in purchasing the Saiga is because it is an actual Russian made AK. Peach State (one of our sponsors) has a decent selection of AKs... http://shop.peachstateguns.com/category.sc?categoryId=70 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bizzarolibe 5 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 A converted restored Siaga is a Russian AK. Russian AK's are superior in fit and finish and in many cases accuracy to the lower-grade clones like the Romanian WASR-10. Some clones are better, some are worse, but an AK type rifle must be manufactured in Russia to be considered a true AK. The Russian AK's are like the "Colts" in the AR-15 world. As for caliber, that really just depends. I have the 7.62x39 because, well, that's just what the platform was originally designed to shoot, ammo will always be plentiful for it (so far as I know), and the AK round is a proven man-stopper. But, you could argue the same for the 5.45 and the .223. The .308 is pretty rock-and-roll...if you can afford to spend it. Really though, it all comes down to personal preference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thehopping1 105 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Also factor in that though 5.45 is cheaper, it is all corrosive(at least from what I have seen). 7.62X39 is a little more expensive, but it is all over and soon 5.45 will be more expensive than it is now and still corrosive. I don't like to clean my guns too often so 5.45 is out of the question for me. I went about 2500 to 3000 rounds before cleaning my gas system and the only reason it got cleaned was because I had the gun refinished finally. I would love to have a 308 but I shoot way too much to afford that ammo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TO THE FLOOR IN A 63 121 Posted December 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) Although I don't reload or collect my brass, I do enjoy cleaning my guns and try to do it right away after I shoot. Once I didn't clean a M11 right away and when I looked at it again there was surface rust all over it. Aside from that I am just reading along. Thanks for the comments so far. And thanks for the link to Peach State...those guys were very helpful when I was looking for my s12. Edited December 11, 2009 by TO THE FLOOR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregM1 241 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 its a good thing you don't reload if you are interested in an ak. from all i have seen, ak's are a reloaders worst nightmare when it comes to the dented brass. there are a lot of "fixes" to help that though, should you become interested in that. i only use the cheaper steel and zinc ammo. i have no interest in reloading at the current time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigafreake 27 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 get yourself an sgl21 even off sale they are only 600 which i think is still a very nice price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Digger44 0 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) The following link will answer every question you have listed above: http://forum.saiga-12.com/ Edited December 11, 2009 by Digger44 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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