CrazyJ 0 Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 I've managed to remove the bottom tang screw and the rear tang screw on top, but that third screw (the one you have to remove the cover to get at) is not coming out... I've soaked it overnight in penetrating oil and it's still in tight. Suggestions? Am I missing something? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shep 0 Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 I don't know what you have available for tools but you could try putting the gun in a padded vice and then using a screwdriver bit in a socket wrench. That will give you more leveredge but it will also increase the chance that you will strip the head of the screw out. Then you will have to drill it out. Another alternative could be that the screw is being held fast by the paint they used when it was made. Maybe a little acetone (fingernail polish remover) around the screw head would break it down and allow the screw to come free. Acetone also "melts" or softens many plastics so it may have a helpful effect there. Be careful using this because it WILL damage the finish of your gun. A couple of drops at a time is all it may take. That's all I've got, good luck. Shep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MadDog 3 Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Sit on the stock and wiggle it off!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoop762 0 Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 DRILL IT!!! no, but seriously. What shep said is the best thing to do. I had the same problem with the first removal. A couple drops of paint thinner, a socket wrench, clapmed it down and out she came. GOOD LUCK!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Use vicegrips or a good tight 'cheater' on the screwdriver, put the stock in a vice or something solid and put ALL your weight on the screwdriver to prevent camming out when turning. Lots of luck. G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
olderandslower 0 Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 From the old days of motorcycles, we used a "impact screwdriver", in fact I just removed my stock today and had to use the "impact screwdriver". It's important to use a driver bit that fits snugly and goes all the way to the bottom of the screw. You use a two-pound or more sledge hammer and hit the end of the screwdriver, hence the "impact". When the end of the screwdriver is hit it is "impacted" down and the internal mechanism turns the screw. Impact screwdrivers are available at Harbor Freight, Part Number 37530-OVGA. $6.95. Have Fun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
teadie 0 Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 To remove the buttstocks off of mine, I simply smacked it on the floor, holding it by the barrell, 10 or so times turning it before each smack. It worked itself free after a few hits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hugegator 0 Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 welcome teadie. folks we are now graced with the presence of by far one of the finest AK builders around. So teadie, here to bitch about the lack of hi-cap 12 mags with the rest of us? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
teadie 0 Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 (edited) Well, what can I say after such a generous introduction. Thank you. I'm not going to bitch though, I've got an 8 rounder a 5 rounder and 2 more 5 rounders on the way. Edited March 29, 2005 by teadie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 I just took the screws out, and wiggled the stock side to side against my hip while sitting... then a wide flathead in the groove... will just EASILY work the stocks loose... no fuss, no banging... just slowly work them out... easy... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hugegator 0 Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 When you don't have an impact screwdriver a couple of smart taps with a hammer to the screwdriver helps loosen things up. I know what you mean teadie, I've got 4 5 rounders (one still in the wrap) and a couple of two's so I can be patient. I can see how it would be really frustrating only having one mag and no pile of other AK's with you at the range though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shep 0 Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 welcome teadie. folks we are now graced with the presence of by far one of the finest AK builders around. What he said! Does this mean that we'll soon be seeing an S-12 on the famous blue towel? Shep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyJ 0 Posted March 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Acetone doesn't seem to have removed the paint any, as it looks like the oil level didn't drop any overnight... other ideas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 I am suprised you are having such trouble... *ALL* the screws in mine came right out with HAND SCREWDRIVERS! no fuss no muss... just give a good CRANK... OUT!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty 0 Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 I had some trouble backing the screws out of my stock the first time. I just ended up cranking on it till I finally got it loose. Ended up buggering up 2 of the screws, but they finally did come out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shep 0 Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 Acetone doesn't seem to have removed the paint any, as it looks like the oil level didn't drop any overnight... other ideas? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The oil level didn't drop any?? Not sure what you mean CrazyJ. Do you mean that you put acetone on it and the puddle of acetone around the screw head was still there the next day? If that is the case, are you sure you used acetone? I ask because acetone evaporates very quickly and shouldn't last in open air as a liquid very long. In any case, please give the screw driver bit in the socket wrench thing a try. That will probably get it turning if you hold it down tight with one hand and turn with the other. GOBs and olderandslowers suggestions are also very good and should work. I've never tried Teadies method but the man knows AKs a hell of a lot better than me so you may as well give that a try too. One other thing you could try is putting a screwdriver bit in a reversable drill. Be sure that the bit is the right size and fits snug. You'll need to put alot of down force on it to prevent it from stripping the slot and of course put the gun in a padded vice if possible. Good luck Shep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoop762 0 Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 (edited) you sure you're turing the driver the right way?? just remember...lefty loosy, righty tighty!!!!! just kidding man...couldn't help myself. ive been reading for about the last 3 hours and my brain is fried!! in all seriousness...definitely take sheps advice with the socket wrench. it worked like a charm for me good luck!! Edited March 31, 2005 by hoop762 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyJ 0 Posted March 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 The oil level didn't drop any?? Not sure what you mean CrazyJ. Do you mean that you put acetone on it and the puddle of acetone around the screw head was still there the next day? If that is the case, are you sure you used acetone? I ask because acetone evaporates very quickly and shouldn't last in open air as a liquid very long.I used acetone, then tried putting more penetrating oil on, and it doesn't look like the oil did any penetrating. In any case, please give the screw driver bit in the socket wrench thing a try. That will probably get it turning if you hold it down tight with one hand and turn with the other. I'll see if I can find one to borrow this weekend. Or maybe I'll stop by Sears and try to buy the adaptor for it. Already spent $50 there this week :-P you sure you're turing the driver the right way?? Yes. And that *is* a fair question, I've turned the wrong way a few times while trying to change the oil in my car. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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