saigarifles 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 http://www.dinzagarms.com/saiga_12/akpou12.html do I need this $300! part for adding a tapco handguard/grip mount?!!??????????????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR Young 175 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) No, you just need a lower retainer. Edited February 12, 2010 by TR Young Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigarifles 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) oh Thank you, I see the last picture, it looks ugly with out the top but I am not willing to pay $300 for the top looks, I just need the bottom. Edited February 12, 2010 by saigarifles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR Young 175 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Post a link to your handguard so we can see exactly what you have, please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Red Jacket 329 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 oh Thank you, I see the last picture, it looks ugly with out the top but I am not willing to pay $300 for the top looks, I just need the bottom. I've used those from Dinzag extensively . They are worth every penny . Will Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigarifles 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) http://www.dinzagarms.com/furniture/tapco.html first one on the page the tapcos, also I could not see paying $300 for a hardguard top I am sorry, thats another gun lol... does the vertical handgrips fit the interfuse handguards? Edited February 12, 2010 by saigarifles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR Young 175 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) if the vertical grip fastens to a picatinny rail, it appears that you will be fine. The Intrafuse HG has a Picatinny rail on the underside. Edited February 12, 2010 by TR Young Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sapper1371usmc 107 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) You dont need a Lower Retainer for the Tapco Intrafuse that are saiga specific. The LH retainer is only if you want to add standard AK lower handguards, or in which case the Tapco Intrafuse for standard AK's Edited February 12, 2010 by sapper1371usmc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigarifles 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 anyone have good advice for a nice folding stock? I can not seam to find one... at this point I do not mind if it doesnt close all the way with a drum or not. I can close it half way. Itsaid on a tapco folder stock, Not legal in all areas. Why would this be? do you need to be 21 to have a folding stock? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sapper1371usmc 107 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Hold on, which one exactly are you talking about. The first one on the page is a Tapco Intrafuse that is Saiga specific. Then if you scroll down under the Galil handguards, you have the standard AK intrafuse handguards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR Young 175 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 You dont need a Lower Retainer for those handguards. The LH is only if you want to add standard AK lower handguards I think he's referring to this handguard: In which case, he does need a retainer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sapper1371usmc 107 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 If you want a folding stock, I recommend cutting off the rear tang, adding an MAA internal block adapter with side mounting screws, an Ace folding adapter (non-pushbutton) and either a DPH 8.5 or and Ace 8.5 stock. A 1" recoil pad is also a plus. You can get all of this through CSS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigarifles 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) no, I am talking about the first one(handguard) item number is saigaifhgbk 2nd pic will this fit the tapco handguard <picture left but I need http://www.dinzagarms.com/saiga_12/bor1220.html to fit the handguard correct? if this works then I just need to find a stock, you guys have any good advice on stocks? I am looking for a folder. I will not think about a t6, I do not think a ak should have a AR look ... at the bottom of the page http://www.dinzagarms.com/furniture/tapco.html there is a tapco folding stock, I heard some people have had their pins break and had to place metal pins back in, what folders you guys use for s12g? Edited February 12, 2010 by saigarifles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR Young 175 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Good Lord, man... when you ask a question, provide this much information in the first post instead of being so ambiguous!!! Yes, the vertical grip that you have pictured will fit the picatinny rail of the hand guard you have posted. No, you do not need a retainer for that hand guard; it has a tab that slides into the receiver just like your OEM hand guard, and it screws into the same front screw hole that the OEM guard screws into. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigarifles 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) Good Lord, man... when you ask a question, provide this much information in the first post instead of being so ambiguous!!! Yes, the vertical grip that you have pictured will fit the picatinny rail of the hand guard you have posted. No, you do not need a retainer for that hand guard; it has a tab that slides into the receiver just like your OEM hand guard, and it screws into the same front screw hole that the OEM guard screws into. so I can buy those 2 pictured items and they will fit RIGHT on my saiga 12g without this part http://www.dinzagarms.com/saiga_12/bor1220.html I did 1 convert already on a 7.62 I am just new to 12g and I want to add a handguard for the big recoil Thanks so much for your help man! if you have a folder on your ak let me know which type it is please does anyone use BRAKES on there saiga? I was looking at a tromix shark brake I really do not know what brakes do It looks pretty cool though. These things just screw on the end of the barrel? Edited February 12, 2010 by saigarifles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR Young 175 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 so I can buy those 2 pictured items and they will fit RIGHT on my saiga 12g without this part http://www.dinzagarms.com/saiga_12/bor1220.html I did 1 convert already on a 7.62 I am just new to 12g and I want to add a handguard for the big recoil Thanks so much for your help man! if you have a folder on your ak let me know which type it is please does anyone use BRAKES on there saiga? I was looking at a tromix shark brake I really do not know what brakes do It looks pretty cool though. These things just screw on the end of the barrel? Yes, the hand guard will fit RIGHT on your S12, and the vertical grip will attach RIGHT to the picatinny rail. I don't do folders; I like the versatility of a collapsible stock. Brakes limit recoil and/or muzzle 'flip'. They can be screwed on to the barrel, if your barrel has threads and the brake has threads, or it can be welded in place. I can't answer for how well a brake works on the S12; I have a PolyChoke II on mine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cholly_horse 3 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=13312&pid=471041&st=450entry471041 Started with a STOCK S12.. Tapco Stock, Pistol Grip, Handguard, and Vertical Grip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigarifles 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 so I can buy those 2 pictured items and they will fit RIGHT on my saiga 12g without this part http://www.dinzagarms.com/saiga_12/bor1220.html I did 1 convert already on a 7.62 I am just new to 12g and I want to add a handguard for the big recoil Thanks so much for your help man! if you have a folder on your ak let me know which type it is please does anyone use BRAKES on there saiga? I was looking at a tromix shark brake I really do not know what brakes do It looks pretty cool though. These things just screw on the end of the barrel? Yes, the hand guard will fit RIGHT on your S12, and the vertical grip will attach RIGHT to the picatinny rail. I don't do folders; I like the versatility of a collapsible stock. Brakes limit recoil and/or muzzle 'flip'. They can be screwed on to the barrel, if your barrel has threads and the brake has threads, or it can be welded in place. I can't answer for how well a brake works on the S12; I have a PolyChoke II on mine. what collapsible stock do you use? and how well do you like it? a choke is that little thing when you change the numbers from 1 to 2 the factory thing? correct? I am new to shotguns and chokes lol.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR Young 175 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) what collapsible stock do you use? and how well do you like it? a choke is that little thing when you change the numbers from 1 to 2 the factory thing? correct? I am new to shotguns and chokes lol.. On my S12, I have a Tapco T6 stock. I do NOT like it; it angles downward as it exits the receiver, and I think it looks and feels cheap, but it DOES count as a 922r compliance part. I will be replacing it with the CAA stock I am going to tell you about next. On my 7.62, I have a CAA 6-position collapsible. I LOVE it. It has a nice recoil pad, and it exits straight back, keeping my shoulder (or pectoral muscle, depending on what stance I am using) in line with the muzzle, which is ideal for absorbing recoil. THE CAA STOCK IS NOT A 922r COMPLIANCE PART; IT IS MADE IN ISRAEL. That thing on the front of your S12 with numbers "1" and "2" is your gas setting. Do a search in the S12 forums, and you'll find all kinds of information on it. A choke is placed on the end of your barrel. It 'chokes' down the shot, tightening up the pattern. You can buy fixed chokes, or adjustable chokes. Each has it's own set of advantages and disadvantages. Again, doing a search will help you out. The search function is your friend. Edited February 12, 2010 by TR Young Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigarifles 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) I am looking at more and more folders and they get $100+! I think I will stick with a kvar stock again ...... But thanks guys for helping me with the guard/grip! where do you get a clip to snap on a flashlight? pic 1 is a muzzle brake correct and pic 2 is a choke? Edited February 12, 2010 by saigarifles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sapper1371usmc 107 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 If you dont have a need for the rear storage compartment, then you can go with Tapco's AK stock and save yourself some cash. I bought one for my S308 and it fits good and feels solid as well. And even if it ever breaks,which I doubt it would, Tapco has a lifetime warranty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigarifles 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 If you dont have a need for the rear storage compartment, then you can go with Tapco's AK stock and save yourself some cash. I bought one for my S308 and it fits good and feels solid as well. And even if it ever breaks,which I doubt it would, Tapco has a lifetime warranty. I had a tapco but I sold it because I can not stand warsaw lengh. To short for me, so I got an Kvar so far its good. I really wanted to get a folder but not willing to pay $150! + for an ace folder.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR Young 175 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Your new avatar does not fit with the theme of this thread... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigarifles 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) I did the math, 1 saiga 12g, convert parts, 1 20round drum = 800 ouch Thanks for all the help I been wanting to figure out the grip and forend for a little while now. Edited February 12, 2010 by saigarifles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Maybe Shaneman will chime in on this topic & we'll really be confused because he has the same avatar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mollysman420 19 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 anyone have good advice for a nice folding stock? I can not seam to find one... at this point I do not mind if it doesnt close all the way with a drum or not. I can close it half way. Itsaid on a tapco folder stock, Not legal in all areas. Why would this be? do you need to be 21 to have a folding stock? I like the wire folder I have on mine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Maybe Shaneman will chime in on this topic & we'll really be confused because he has the same avatar. +1 When I first started reading this thread I thought "Why is Shaneman asking all these noob questions?" I gotta start paying closer attention. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mollysman420 19 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Maybe Shaneman will chime in on this topic & we'll really be confused because he has the same avatar. +1 When I first started reading this thread I thought "Why is Shaneman asking all these noob questions?" I gotta start paying closer attention. LOL thats funny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Maybe Shaneman will chime in on this topic & we'll really be confused because he has the same avatar. +1 When I first started reading this thread I thought "Why is Shaneman asking all these noob questions?" I gotta start paying closer attention. +2 Hahahahaha maybe he will change his avatar to avoid further confusion....funny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigarifles 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 First, I found this avatar off google so do I have to change it?????? I didnt know someone else had it here. Dragonwolf, what wire folder is that?? can you put a recoil/rubber pad on it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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