my762buzz 141 Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfIOi6Z16zQ&feature=player_embedded#! Anyone ever seen anything like this with a saiga or any russian 7.62x39 for that matter? Of course, it might have been the Wolf ammo but now that would be a bit more alarming. Edited October 2, 2010 by my762buzz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 My theory on it (more like a somewhat educated guess). Is that it could have been a squib round that was followed by a regular round. EDIT: Yeah I was getting that strange feeling I had seen that video before. Guess I had. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 (edited) Hasnt this been posted before. If the search option didnt blow BALLZ so much I would find it and link it, but it does. I searched, it sucks. not hating but I do recall this, wasnt it actually you that posted it Buzz? Its been a long time ago. Cant remember but I think it was in the Other AK rifles thread. But anyawys, regardless what was the outcome of it? I dont remember. This dejavu shit gets on my nerves, they say im too old for TIAs but im starting to believe im having them. Can I use a life line? I call on Nalioth. Edited October 2, 2010 by Chevyman097 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Can I use a life line? I call on Nalioth. Don't call me - call Uncle Google . . Your search term here site:saiga-12.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 (edited) AHA! I did it!!! http://forum.saiga-1...=1 Be proud be very proud! Either way, thats all non topic here. Just had to get it off my chest! carry on folks Damn Nalioth, I think I almost related to you on this one. P.S. Bigsal I still hate you. Edited October 2, 2010 by Chevyman097 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 I call on Nalioth. :lolol: I summon Nalioth from his slumber, back to Saiga-12 to feed on posts of old... 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjrivero 50 Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 I'd like to see a shot strait down the barrel. If it was a squib followed by a full power round, there should be at least a bulge in the barrel. I don't believe this to be "fatigue" failure on the receiver, it looks like an over pressure issue. Weather that's due to a squib with a chaser, or if that's due to an over powdered cartridge, it's the pressure that caused the bolt to come back with such force, it wedged open that receiver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted October 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 (edited) Hasnt this been posted before. Cant remember but I think it was in the Other AK rifles thread. Dammm I missed that. Edited October 2, 2010 by my762buzz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Hasnt this been posted before. Cant remember but I think it was in the Other AK rifles thread. Dammm I missed that. Im sorry, I felt obligated to try and beat others too it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted October 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 i had a WSAR that snapped the left side trunnion lug exactly like the viedo ,i knew something was wrong and pulled it apart and the left trunnion lug fell out in my hand with part of the serial number on it , no injury no other part of the rifle distorted in any way shape or form . it got welded up into a dummy gun , all i can figure is that during heat treatment it was not drawn back from RC 60 to the normal 43-45 hardness for a receiver`s locking lug area. the tell tale was inspection of the break zone like pictured it was clean and fine grained ,showed no discolored area that would indicate the start of a crack leading to ultimate failure. Hmmmm that is interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milsurps 4 Me 14 Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 I'm reminded of this oldie: 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HappYBallZ 31 Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 (edited) I'm reminded of this oldie: OMG hahaha, this is pretty epic. I hope this will never happen to any of my guns. I think that guy got lucky. Edited October 2, 2010 by HappYBallZ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 I'm reminded of this oldie: Ah yes, the myth continues. . . You do realize the Draco is only imported by Century, and they don't do anything to it besides log it in and out? It's a pistol and not subject to 922r. It is imported in the same condition you buy it in - no monkeying done to it by Century. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milsurps 4 Me 14 Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Ah yes, the myth continues. . . You do realize the Draco is only imported by Century, and they don't do anything to it besides log it in and out? It's a pistol and not subject to 922r. It is imported in the same condition you buy it in - no monkeying done to it by Century. Never even thought about to tell you the truth, but I get it now. In Mass we can't own them since they're not on the approved roster list so I've never checked one out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 (edited) I am not sure this had anything to do with this but I have not seen it posted before even though it was last year and it might help someone so here goes. http://www.centuryarms.com/notice/Draco%20Warning%20Notice%20Century%20Arms.pdf May 2009 Re: HG1916-N Draco Pistol WARNING AND NOTICE It has come to our attention that some Draco pistols may exhibit intermittent hammer and sear engagement. In order to correct this issue, we are replacing the hammer and sear on all Draco pistols. Century will cover all shipping and repair costs associated with this program. A failure to upgrade the Draco pistol with the new hammer and sear could result in a firearm malfunction, including but not limited to, personal injury and property damage. If you have a Draco pistol, please contact us at (800) 270-2767 to obtain a return authorization number. If the pistol has been sold or transferred, please provide us with the name, address and contact information of the purchaser(s). We will contact them directly. We appreciate your cooperation in this matter and hope to have this situation resolved as quickly as possible. By saying personal injury, I can't think of anything else except an out of battery ignition. If this is true, then most any semiauto AK would be vulnerable to this too. The rear carrier stub is suppose to prevent this so this is an odd claim. A tapco g2 group might fix this problem faster than shipping it to century. If someone has a picture of their draco trigger group, maybe they can point out what is different from a regular semiauto trigger group that would cause a malfunction. Edited November 15, 2010 by my762buzz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dobravery 49 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 If a firearm ever blows up on me, I hope it looks something like that--no shattering no fragmenting. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
physicsnerd 139 Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 Are the Draco's proofed? It seems like if they're proofed and the problem was in the heat treatment/construction the problem would've shown up then. The Saiga's are proofed right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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