macaholic 5 Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 (edited) I saw a tool on aktools .com called a rivet jaw. Does anyone know if this tool can be used to install rivets in the trigger holes of the Saiga-12, rather than welding them and going through all that F%#CKING BULLSHIT filing and grinding? Edited February 19, 2011 by macaholic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfanatic 221 Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Most people use these rather than rivets. http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-149/Saiga-FCG-hole-plugs/Detail Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Use the plastic plugs. They look just as good and in 10 minutes you are done! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 Use the plastic plugs. They look just as good and in 10 minutes you are done! yep, go to LOWES for under a buck you can get those plugs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 Use the plastic plugs. They look just as good and in 10 minutes you are done! yep, go to LOWES for under a buck you can get those plugs. Ditto! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike1234567 26 Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 RE Plugs vs. Rivets: That's what I'll be doing but I've read that the metal versions look even better and are more durable than the plastic ones. I haven't seen them but this is what I've read. Sorry but I'm too lazy to search for the posts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akastormi 617 Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 Personaly I'd go the welding way. Brass or copper backing block and weld/ grind. But yes you can use Rivets with the Bolt cutter rivet jaws. Make sure if you do, get the 24" model with the deep reach for the Yugo underfold rivets. Those will have the reach to get to the bottom of the receiver for those holes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 Have used a rivet gun when access to the rivet is possible, or if not have welded/melted the rivet stem with a blowtorch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 Out of fear that the ATF/Government could in some way outlaw changes to the Saiga's imported form, I've decided that on both my S12 & Sx39, that I'd not permanently alter the receiver. Thus plastic plugs were the order of the day. When the People fear the Government, We have Tyranny. When the Government fears the People, We have Freedom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 Plastic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macaholic 5 Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) I srtipped the gun down after last weeks subgun/shotgun match, and took it to a cetified welder to have the four side holes TIG welded. After some hours of the ussual fileing and grinding the welds are perfect. now I have to respray the reciever. I will use flat black laquer from Ace hardware a second time now. I can't believe how good this finish matches the trunion and barrel. It's damned near perfect. You can see the gun on a video at my Florida subgun match thread. Edited March 11, 2011 by macaholic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 I used binder screws (or Chicago screws) to fill in the holes and painted them black. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macaholic 5 Posted March 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 (edited) I used binder screws (or Chicago screws) to fill in the holes and painted them black. I plan to use rivets on the side holes of my other Saiga-12 when it ever gets back to me from CGW. It's been four months now and I'm begining to get a little worried. I sent it in to get the barrel cut to 16" and the reciever engraved as me for the manufacture on the Form 1. I hope everything is okay. Anyway, I don't plan to go through the same pain in the ass fileing and grinding like my first Saiga-12, but I do plan to MIG weld the two holes on the bottom of the reciever. They are easier to fill completely because I have access from the inside as well as the outside of the reciever. I guess I'm too much of a perfectionist because I drive myself crazy with little issues. I just got my girlfriend a new Sony video/camera last night, and I've already posted some pix on Balashnikov.com, so I'll be posting some pix of my Saiga-12's in the vey near future. By the way, The JPFO is the finest gun rights group in the country. I was very sad to hear that Aron Zelman died recently. I got to speak with him on the phone years ago when they first started as an organization, and I still have the SWAT magazine with the artical on him anouncing the JPFO. He was a very interesting man with much insight and will be greatly missed. God Bless him! Edited March 13, 2011 by macaholic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 The only way you are going to get real rivets to work like that in that location is if you make some steel sleeves or drilled crossbars to hold the inside of the receiver from collapsing, and use a full through rivet like you see in front of the hammer. I don't think the bolt cutter type rivet crushers are going to reach that far. I could be mistaken though..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timy 1,185 Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 I used binder screws (or Chicago screws) to fill in the holes and painted them black. I plan to use rivets on the side holes of my other Saiga-12 when it ever gets back to me from CGW. It's been four months now and I'm begining to get a little worried. I sent it in to get the barrel cut to 16" and the reciever engraved as me for the manufacture on the Form 1. I hope everything is okay. Anyway, I don't plan to go through the same pain in the ass fileing and grinding like my first Saiga-12, but I do plan to MIG weld the two holes on the bottom of the reciever. They are easier to fill completely because I have access from the inside as well as the outside of the reciever. I guess I'm too much of a perfectionist because I drive myself crazy with little issues. I just got my girlfriend a new Sony video/camera last night, and I've already posted some pix on Balashnikov.com, so I'll be posting some pix of my Saiga-12's in the vey near future. By the way, The JPFO is the finest gun rights group in the country. I was very sad to hear that Aron Zelman died recently. I got to speak with him on the phone years ago when they first started as an organization, and I still have the SWAT magazine with the artical on him anouncing the JPFO. He was a very interesting man with much insight and will be greatly missed. God Bless him! +1 on JPFO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adjusterr 19 Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Every person owning a firearm should join JPFO, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. Those guys know how to get things done and they back down from no one. Rest in Peace Aron Zelman. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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