KillerLuke 0 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) Anyone ever play with such a thing? I saw the youtube vid for "FRAG 12" exploding 12 gauge ammo, it is a cool idea but doesn't really seem to do anymore damage than a slug would? FRAG 12 on Youtube My understanding is that exploding ammunition containing less than 1/4 oz of explosive compound is not restricted on a federal level any differently than other cartridges ( of course some states don't like "Raufoss" type ammo ) so I am curious about loading some fun stuff on a hobby level. My two ideas are; Something like a slug with the nose hollowed out and filled with something that would detonate on impact. Kind of like the FRAG 12 and "baby grenade": something fired at low enough pressure to avoid needing hearing protection that you could "lob" like a grenade launcher and wait for a report. Would be fun to setup some old appliances and steel drums and lob a timed salute into them. Would be cool to dress up a single shot to look like an M79 launcher. For initial testing I plan on a single shot viced to a steel desk with a pull cord on the trigger. I don't know what kind of materials you would use for the "charge" though? Needs to be stable for storage and handling but should still have cool effects. I would rather keep it to things that do not require an explosives permit. Does anything like this already exist commercially? I ran this idea by the folks at TheHighRoad but their only good advice was safety related. Look forward to comments and suggestions! Edited February 28, 2011 by KillerLuke Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrOneEyedBoh 14 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 ammo to go has some specialty stuff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Google Firequest --they have some novel shotgun ammo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 why would you want your shells to incenerate? incendiary slugs would be way more fun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
schultze13 354 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Take a look at Paraklesetechnologies.com at there AP sabot slugs and incendiry AP rounds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Check your local/state laws. That shit is illegal here in FL. We used to use "bird bombs" up north which had a pretty decent report. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
belt fed frog 56 Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 MT Predator check HERE 14.5 mm M183 PD spotter slugs , loaded in 20 and 12 Ga. shells they are legal in FL because they do Not fragment and are there fore are not covered by FL statute 790.22 everything comes out the back of the 1100 Gr. slug, but you must use a rifled barrel Loud as Heck ,bright flash and dense smoke ball 3' in dia. , i use them loaded in a 3" 20 Ga. shell fired from an H&R Ultra Slug Hunter and they will group 4" at 100 yards ,would definitely drop a dear or hog but i use them as a wildlife scare fired into the ground or a palm tree , works very well i lucked out years ago and got the slugs for 25 cents a piece in bulk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ewoketeer 35 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 You'll need a license to manufacture Destructive Devices if you intend to make 12ga. explosive rounds. This is because the projectile is more than .50" diameter (.73"). The cost in '01 was $3000 for the first year and $1000 per year thereafter. I didn't pursue this kind of thing for this reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 You would most likely have to custom make a slug mold that had a deep hollow point. Maybe add black powder...a 209 primer on top upside down with a BB affixed to the primer... I'm just spit ballen here so don't try it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 It's been years, but somewhere I saw 12ga slugs that were hollow. They were for 'loading your own', put black powder in the cavity, and press a.22blank into the nose. I don't know about the legality of it, but it did look like FUN! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 a vendor on this site sells them and a bunch of other gimmick ammo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JamesM 3 Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 http://www.hi-vel.com/Catalog__25/Specialized_Shotshell_Ammuniti/specialized_shotshell_ammuniti.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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