rastamanila 313 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Here's a link to an article about a Blade Runner sequel/prequel: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/8359857/Blade-Runner-sequel-planned-30-years-on.html I'm very skeptical as almost all if not most remakes of late have been pathetic, unimaginative scams to try to make money. Don't get me started about how they screwed up The Green Hornet. My favorite film is Terry Gilliam's (of Monty Python fame) "Brazil" (I wonder if many of you have seen this.); probably because I am a frustrated cinematographer and misspent much of my youth reading "Heavy Metal" magazine and other graphic material of a similar genre. What are your thoughts? -rastamanila 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ktcm7271 999 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 You have my attention. The original was one of my faves as well. Casting actors equal to or greater than Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, and Sean Young will be a tough task. Some remakes have been watchable lately: Dawn of the Dead, Hills have eyes, My bloody valentine, etc were all very good. I grew up on Dungeons and Dragons, cartoons, and heavy metal, so sci-fi is right up my ally! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean.223 365 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 I hear your frustration, don't get me started about that bastard Michael Bay... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 (edited) Blade Runner was based on the novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by one of my favorite SF authors, Philip K. Dick. I am not sure how much more material there is there, but I guess that if they stick to that is a guide. I would just hate to see it take the road of Highlander, in which the sequels looked have been made by people that had seen no more of the original movie then the poster... Brazil is also one of my favorite movies! For something equally odd, but set in a different period, kinda, try Naked Lunch! Edited March 3, 2011 by Azrial 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Have that one in the collection, K.T. is right, have to find the right people. The original players were great. As far as HM, does not get better Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Oddly enough, I have a picture of Brion James and I standing together. He is the actor that played Leon Kowalski. Nice fellow in real life, but in the movies he ususally played the bad guy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tktm 13 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 starring Cristian Bale and Lindsey Lohan, with special guest stars Ellen Degeneres & David Caruso Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 The original Bladerunner is one of my all time favorites. I simply can't imagine a sequel doing it the justice it deserves... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ktcm7271 999 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 starring Cristian Bale and Lindsey Lohan, with special guest stars Ellen Degeneres & David Caruso LMAO! At least it's not Martin Lawrence, Pauly Shore, Keanu Reeves, and Rosie O'Donnel! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kliegl 304 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 The problem is that Blade Runner had a very tortured route to the screen, and almost made it in a much shittier version. Dick said his views of the first few scripts was something like: "It was a dirty town, it was a dirty job. Someone had to do that job, and that someone was me. I'm Rick Deckard." That would have sucked balls. I'd like to try writing some myself, and I might in a couple years once my time opens up a bit, but I would be really reluctant to sell any movie rights. I mean, did anyone see the movie Starship Troopers and read the book? Ho-ly fuck. Dizzy Flores was a man who died in the first scene in the book...in the movie, she was a hot redhead who went topless twice.....NOT THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM THERE, or anything, but Heinlein had a MESSAGE to be taught and it got lost. Or, take, I Am Legend. The best sci-fi is when the book makes you realize something and you go "Holy Shit. Wow. I get it. I never thought of that before." There is that moment at the end of I am Legend, and it has to do with that very line. The movie ruined the message. I've no issue with modernizing a setting and characters, but the message needs to be the same. Romeo and Juliet has been done in thousands of settings, but they NEVER live happily ever after. You don't fuck with a play, you shouldn't fuck with a book, in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 I grew up reading Isaac Asimov and Frank Herbert the books are always better than any movie 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ktcm7271 999 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 I grew up reading Isaac Asimov and Frank Herbert the books are always better than any movie Dune comes to mind. Good movie, great book. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 I grew up reading Isaac Asimov and Frank Herbert the books are always better than any movie Dune comes to mind. Good movie, great book. No, awesome book! Speaking of Dune, I kind of liked the Si-Fi Channel remakes as well. They when in to more detail, but did not have the power of the original movie. I had hoped that they would finish the whole series. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 I mean, did anyone see the movie Starship Troopers and read the book? Ho-ly fuck. Dizzy Flores was a man who died in the first scene in the book...in the movie, she was a hot redhead who went topless twice.....NOT THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM THERE, or anything, but Heinlein had a MESSAGE to be taught and it got lost. Yeah. The movie was more a parody on the book really, but it had a message of its own too: anti-militarism and anti-fascism. Those typical Verhoeven (see Robocop and Total Recall) faux commercials were hilarious and scary, at the same time. Paul Verhoeven was growing up in Nazi occupied Holland, so anti-militarism and anti-fascism is a strong theme in all of his early movies. Also, how can you beat Doogie Houser dressed in an SS uniform? Any way, I enjoyed both the book and the movie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kliegl 304 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Yeah, well, I could give two shits where he grew up. I mean, I'm sorry he got the Nazis, but that's no excuse to make every damn thing about how anything like them is bad. That book had so much to give, and now it's ruined for ever having an awesome movie made of it. Heinlein thought up mechanized armor. He....invented....it. There was none in the movie. Heinlein delved deep into why we fight, and what makes us better, and worse, than a hive mind. There was none of that in the movie. The worse thing is that he probably lied to Ginny Heinlein to get rights, then raped the book 7 different ways. I am glad Heinlein himself wasn't alive to see it. I mean, the book is one of the best science fiction novels ever. The movie wasn't even special the year it came out. It's like hiring a kindergarten kid to fingerpaint an animated flip book of the Mona Lisa. Some shit just shouldn't be allowed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 (edited) The power armor concept is cool as hell. I just don't think that the tech was there in 1996 to do it properly and within budget. I don't remember the book delving too deeply into the concept of hive mind, at least not nearly as much as Ender's Game did. Then again, it has been a while and I should really re-read it. The episode which stuck with me the most, was in the very beginning, where they were raining hell on the vastly out-matched Skinnies. Edited March 5, 2011 by SpetsnazGRU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timy 1,185 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 A well done movie, one of my favorites as well. Not that I have many favorites. The problem with most sequels/remakes is a lack of original thought and the desire to make easy money without putting any substantial effort into the venture. I'm almost done with my first book and as far as I know it should be different enough to stand on it's own and should transfer well enough to a movie. Time will tell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ktcm7271 999 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 The greatest sci-fi movie of all time is about to get butchered. John Carpenter's The Thing is getting re-done. Not a pick up where left off, but a re-do. They threw a couple hot chicks in, and all the effects are gonna be CG, not animatronics. I'm thinking Twilight meets The Thing. Gonna suck! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marrok857 51 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 The greatest sci-fi movie of all time is about to get butchered. John Carpenter's The Thing is getting re-done. Not a pick up where left off, but a re-do. They threw a couple hot chicks in, and all the effects are gonna be CG, not animatronics. I'm thinking Twilight meets The Thing. Gonna suck! hell you think thats bad, the new Xmen movie which Ive been waiting for, has the douchebag that played the main character in "Wanted" as Professor Xavier. ITS A TRAVESTY I TELL YA!!!!!!! X-Men: First Class (2011) - IMDb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kliegl 304 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 It's all in the reflexes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 The Blob, Steve McQueen version Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bladed 1 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 The greatest sci-fi movie of all time is about to get butchered. John Carpenter's The Thing is getting re-done. Not a pick up where left off, but a re-do. They threw a couple hot chicks in, and all the effects are gonna be CG, not animatronics. I'm thinking Twilight meets The Thing. Gonna suck! You of course realize the John Carpenter version of The Thing was in fact a remake. James Arness played the thing in the 1950's version. The only movie in which I have ever seen that was better than the book was Bram Stoker's Dracula (Francis Ford Coppola, Director). Good remakes (not necessarily better) are Halloween (Rob Zombie), Dawn of the Dead, The Day the Earth Stood Still was ok, but neither version followed the original story at all. It was Called I am the Master,(Gort was the master and Klatu was the slave). Heavy Metal 2 (Fakk) Sucked balls, so much so I don't even remember the story line. I still need to see the original movie that I am legend was made from, Vincent Price's Last man on Earth. Hell I'd just like to see a decent Zombie movie come out...................... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kliegl 304 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I am Legend was a BOOK. Read it. Damn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bladed 1 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I am Legend was a BOOK. Read it. Damn. No shit? It was also two other movies BEFORE the Will Smith version, The last Man on Earth (Vincent Price), and The Omega Man (Charlton Heston). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kliegl 304 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Sorry, man, didn't mean to snap at you. But, yeah, it was a book before anything else. While a non successful book can sometimes be made into a great movie, usually it's the other way around. I'm a bit of a literary snob; I read a whole bunch, and generally view those that just read for information as unimaginative people that would rather watch TV. As a result, most of the time a movie from a book comes out, I've read the book, first, and I am almost always disappointed by the movie. Important parts get cut, bullshit gets left in, the plot and/or characters get slanted to fit some liberal queer director's vision, or at least is made PC, or the ending gets changed. Peter Jackson did a good job with Tolkien's work. It wasn't perfect, but it was good. The films made awesome money, swept the Oscars, and were just badass. I wish he'd take a stab at King's Dark Tower series, since he's the only one who could do it justice. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shavers 6 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Here's my opinion on all these remakes... Doing a remake is a sign that they have no original ideas. If they can sell me on WHY they want to do a remake, other than "because we'll get tons of money off name recognition even if it sucks", then I'll be on board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Desolo 55 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Peter Jackson did a good job with Tolkien's work. It wasn't perfect, but it was good. The films made awesome money, swept the Oscars, and were just badass. I wish he'd take a stab at King's Dark Tower series, since he's the only one who could do it justice. I agree whole heartedly on that one...problem is what if someone else did it and SCREWED IT UP I know a whole heap of people would be sooooo pissed... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kliegl 304 Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 I've always wondered something about the Dark Tower series. Roland (the main character, for those who don't know it) packs twin .45 Colt revolvers. While he is pretty much half cowboy, half knight errant, he can reload those suckers, at the same time, damn fast. This either means the revolvers are double action, with crane held cylinders that can be kicked out sideways like a modern gun, or he is beyond warp speed at reloading Colt SAA style revolvers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Desolo 55 Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Im gonna go with "beyond warp speed" from what I remember... I distinctly remember mention of him ejecting shells out of a gate.... but then again, one of the prominent guns in the series was a "Ruger .44 magnum semi auto pistol" at one point to Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dobravery 49 Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 I love Brazil too. Brazil and Blade Runner both have that feel that maybe the near future isn't as nice as we'd expect and will actually be kind of dirty and screwed up. Very 1984'ish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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