Magineer 9 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 How does one fully disassemble the retraction mechanism? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Not sure what you mean by "retraction mechanism" You've got: Bolt Carrier& Op-rod: these two are screwed together and are the moving parts of the gas system. Bolt: This is what pulls a round from the magazine guides it into the chamber. It also houses the fireing pin, and extractor( extractor is what strips the round from the chamber once it's fired) Recoil spring & guide rod: These items are what side into the back of the bolt carrier and force it forward chambering a new round,once the weapon is fired and the OP-rod/bolt carrier have been blown back from the gas of the previous round. I'm thinking your asking about how to break down the bolt itself. To do so you will need a set of punches, and a soft hammer. I recommend using a block of wood or plastic to support the bolt as you drive the pins located on the side of the bolt through. The method is the same to remove the extractor claw. Simply place your punch of approriate size on the pin and gently tap the punch till the pin slides free, then simply pull the bolt head from the body. If you encounter too much resistance add some penetrating oil, such as wd40 on the pin. let it soak for a minute, wipe away the excess and try again. Hope this helps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
datrowl 111 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 sounds to me like he needs to know how to pull the recoil spring out and allow for the bolt and carrier to be removed.......but I might be wrong if thats the case Boss, best i can do is tell you to youtube " CSS Saiga12 Conversion " and watch the video till what your looking for is shown...... should take ya about 3 minuts to find the vid and watch far enough to have a fair understanding of AK platform breakdown Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magineer 9 Posted March 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 More specifically, I need to know how to separate the guide rod, return-spring guide, plunger, return spring, guide brush, and guard (collectively know as the "retraction mechanism" in the schematic). I've already removed the return spring and guard, which are a simple matter of lateral force. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 This helps: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) I have never taken mine apart. edit to add And now that I have looked at it you have to knock out a pin to release the guide rod. Edited March 10, 2012 by RED333 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D.C.MORRISON 494 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 just out of curiosity, why do you want to dissemble it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magineer 9 Posted March 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Cleaning and curiosity. When I un-boxed, there was a serious abundance of grease. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Seriously, that guy needs to pull that video off youtube, he knows nothing about guns... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Seriously, that guy needs to pull that video off youtube, he knows nothing about guns... What video? Isnt one in this thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Seriously, that guy needs to pull that video off youtube, he knows nothing about guns... What video? Isnt one in this thread. See reference to video in post #3 of this thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Seriously, that guy needs to pull that video off youtube, he knows nothing about guns... What video? Isnt one in this thread. See reference to video in post #3 of this thread. Dully noted, it would benifit me to read..I was looking for a link!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Seriously, that guy needs to pull that video off youtube, he knows nothing about guns... What video? Isnt one in this thread. See reference to video in post #3 of this thread. No, there's a guy on youtube with a how to video on the disassembly of a Saiga -12 he calls the recoil spring and guide rod the retraction mechanism. No one else who has not seen this video says this term... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3rdgeargrndrr 31 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) personally,i would just the brake cleaner out, spray the heck out of it, and reinstall , why take it apart? Edited March 13, 2012 by 3rdgeargrndrr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spartacus 1,619 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 The guy in the video must have been going by the parts chart that Tritium posted. It lists "Retracting Mechanism" and even "Stopper" for the gas plug. It's just that nobody really uses those Russian to English translated part names. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 The guy in the video must have been going by the parts chart that Tritium posted. It lists "Retracting Mechanism" and even "Stopper" for the gas plug. It's just that nobody really uses those Russian to English translated part names. No,no,no. It's cause we're all just idiots on a forum and trying to sound smart. You think that Ishmash doesn't care about proper tranlastion? PSH! Fool, read an instruction manual!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Well, that's the first I've seen of it, thanks but I think I'll stick with the better American terms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Well, that's the first I've seen of it, thanks but I think I'll stick with the better American terms. When I hear "retraction mechanism" I immediately imagine something that pulls back. Not pushes forward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
preparehandbook 326 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I for one swear here and now in front of all these honorable forum members to from this moment on refer to the collectionof parts: guide rod, return-spring guide, plunger, return spring, guide brush, and guard as.... wait for it.... "the retraction mechanism" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 You think that Ishmash doesn't care about proper translation? "After unpacking annihilate this paper." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I saw this: attachment=62939:fat_women_bathingsuits1.jpg] and discovered my dick had a "retraction mechanisim" as in I it made a tactical retreat inside my abdomen.[ 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
preparehandbook 326 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I saw this: attachment=62939:fat_women_bathingsuits1.jpg] and discovered my dick had a "retraction mechanisim" as in I it made a tactical retreat inside my abdomen.[ I'm pretty sure I slept with the one on the left.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 mine had a bit of restance and a grinding of the spring on the bolt carier so I put grease on it and it helped a lot. maby the grease is there for a reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
preparehandbook 326 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 mine had a bit of restance and a grinding of the spring on the bolt carier so I put grease on it and it helped a lot. maby the grease is there for a reason. mine had a bit of restance and a grinding of the retraction mechanism on the bolt carier so I put grease on it and it helped a lot. maby the grease is there for a reason. Fixed that for you.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I saw this: attachment=62939:fat_women_bathingsuits1.jpg] and discovered my dick had a "retraction mechanisim" as in I it made a tactical retreat inside my abdomen.[ I'm pretty sure I slept with the one on the left.... Bet that was TONS of fun! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 There is reason why American do not talk like Russian. Sound broke and hard to understand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 How does one fully disassemble the retraction mechanism? I would also like to know if anyone has any tips for doing this. Plus this thread is f'n funny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 When I hear "retraction mechanism" I immediately imagine something that pulls back. Not pushes forward. I guess you could say it's more of an anti-retraction mechanism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Does anyone who has disassembled the spring guide have any tips on how to do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
osovolante 0 Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Hi, continuing this thread.. I Have a saiga 12 where the guide rod and guide brush seem to be rusted or frozen into one piece. It's preventing me from pulling the bolt support all the way back to where the bolt stop would hold the bolt. If I remove the guide rod and spring mechanism, the bolt does move properly. could someone confirm that the guide rod moves ,into the bush. Thanks for any help. GP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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