psl sniper 963 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door. Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers. At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way. With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it... In the darkness, you make out two shadows. One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire. The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside. As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble. In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless.. Yours was never registered.. Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm. When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter. "What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask. "Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing. "Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven." The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper. Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them.. Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times. But the next day's headline says it all: "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters.. As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up, then the international media. The surviving burglar has become a folk hero. Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win. The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects. After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars. A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you.. Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges. The judge sentences you to life in prison. This case really happened. On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England , killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term.. How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire ? It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license. The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns.. Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns. Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the street shooting everyone he saw.When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead. The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun control", demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a rifle.) Nine years later, at Dunblane , Scotland , Thomas Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public school. For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable, or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners. Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate of the few sidearm's still owned by private citizens. During the years in which the British government incrementally took away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real criminals were released. Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands." All of Tony Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had no fear of the consequences. Martin himself, a collector of antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars. When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply. Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly 200,000 handguns from private citizens. How did the authorities know who had handguns? The guns had been registered and licensed. Kind of like cars. Sound familiar? WAKE UP AMERICA ; THIS IS WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS PUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN OUR CONSTITUTION. "...It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." --Samuel Adams You had better wake up, because Obama is doing this very same thing, over here, if he can get it done. And there are stupid people in congress and on the street that will go right along with him. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Battosaii 99 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Hey i really liked this, do you mind if i post this on facebook? i dont use facebook very often but its just one of many tools to spread important information 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sean8642 77 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 From Wiki: "Shooting downwards in the dark, with his shotgun, loaded with birdshot, Martin evidentially shot three times towards the intruders (once when they were in the stairwell and twice more when they were trying to flee through the window of an adjacent ground floor room)." I think Texas might be the only state you could get away with that. Most other states probably would get you for shooting an individual trying to flee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remek 771 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 I read about this earlier, but its worth repeated reading. We really need an action plan to change our image. Time to hire an ad man! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) . Edited January 19, 2013 by deadeye 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unclejake 428 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 The THREE S'S...SHOOT, SHOVEL, AND SHUT UP!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris71 12 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 That's the problem with standing up for your rights in today's liberal media atmosphere. If they come to take your guns unjustly and Yoo decide to fight then you are labeled a gun toting maniac. The media will paint you as wrong to defend the "law". It's really unbelievable where our country's views have gone to. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 The basic story is right, but some details were left out - his murder conviction was later replaced with a manslaughter conviction, and he served a total of three years in prison before being released in 2003. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remek 771 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 He should be reimbursed for those three years, and punitive damages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted January 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Hey i really liked this, do you mind if i post this on facebook? i dont use facebook very often but its just one of many tools to spread important information go for it. like i said was just an email someone sent me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mogunner 240 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) From Wiki: "Shooting downwards in the dark, with his shotgun, loaded with birdshot, Martin evidentially shot three times towards the intruders (once when they were in the stairwell and twice more when they were trying to flee through the window of an adjacent ground floor room)." I think Texas might be the only state you could get away with that. Most other states probably would get you for shooting an individual trying to flee. Missouri. Year or so ago here we had a guy go out and start up his truck, leaving it running while he went back into the garage. Came out to find a guy driving off in it. Shot three times. Killed the thief. Even though the shooter had an active warrant for a minor deal he wasn't charged as our Castle Doctrine extends to your "property" and "manner of conveyance". There's been several shootings in the state where houses had been broken in to, new construction and such, so someone started spending the nights in them, ended up killing someone after they broke in, no charges. Had a guy who owned a used car lot, he slept some nights in the back, woke up to the front glass being kicked out, fired once from a .357, the cops found the guy around the corner of the building dead. No charges...most of the cops hereabouts are tired of arresting the same dirtballs over and over again, fine by them. Edited January 19, 2013 by mogunner Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Posted that to my Facebook. Probably gonna see some negative posts but oh well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MedicineStorm 6 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) Arizona: 1. Article II, section 31, Constitution of Arizona, is proposed to be amended as follows if approved by the voters and on proclamation of the Governor:31. Damages for death or personal injuries Section 31. No law shall be enacted in this state limiting the amount of damages to be recovered for causing the death or injury of any person, EXCEPT THAT A CRIME VICTIM IS NOT SUBJECT TO A CLAIM FOR DAMAGES BY A PERSON WHO IS HARMED WHILE THE PERSON IS ATTEMPTING TO ENGAGE IN, ENGAGING IN OR FLEEING AFTER HAVING ENGAGED IN OR ATTEMPTED TO ENGAGE IN CONDUCT THAT IS CLASSIFIED AS A FELONY OFFENSE. If someone is robbing you, they don't get to sue if you shoot them... even if they are running away while being shot. The amendment was adopted 2012. Edited January 19, 2013 by MedicineStorm 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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