jon elia 0 Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 i dont know anything about these guns, but i can get a (dont matter now but...) preban cobray m11/9mm with the factory mags, its in good condition. but what are the pros and cons of these guns? how much are they worth? please, inform me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 They are good "lookers" as they always have the air of machine pistol about them... ( I like that quality!) They are a WONDERFUL source of TRIGGER SLAP... A buddy of mine has one, and it SUCKS in that regards. His is a 9mm, and is about as accurate as throwing a rock at 25M... no... wait... You can throw a rock a little more accurately, probably... I have found it to be a worthless rifle ( his is the carbine model, with the 16 inch barrel)... other than the plinker/cool looks aspect. If I had the money... and one was available... yeah, I would get one... although if there was something else on the table next to it that had the same "cool factor" , or SAIGA... (LOL) I would get the saiga! ( of course!) I LIKE 'em... just havent found them to be a *PRACTICAL* gun... lets leave it there... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 I've got the SMG version, PM me with any questions and I'll do my best, but in summary, if mine was just a semi, I wouldn't want it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ironhead7544 35 Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 These guns were designed to be shot with a supressor and shoulder stock. With out these two items its hard to hit with them. They would be good if you were in tight quarters and need a lot of shots without reloading like when driving a car. If you want a fun plinker, then go for it. It might be a good home defense gun if reliable, It certainly has an intimadation factor and a reputation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 The big thing now is if you want to use cheap mags, get it converted to accept STEN mags. Otherwise, cdnn has them for $9ea. I bought a bunch, but only half of them fit (and fed) out of the box. There's a bunch of accessories, but if you have the pistol version, you can't use a front vertical grip (legally). http://www.cdnninvestments.com/pm9mm32blust.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grau_Tek 0 Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 (edited) check out these new cut-down versions theyre selling: --- almost micro-uzi-ish much cooler in my opinion than the long creepy m-11's this one is at joeken tho (blecch) Edited December 22, 2005 by Grau_Tek Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JakeThePimp 0 Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 Just happened the other day..... Was at the range with two other friends. One said Ten shots, guy with the lowest score buys lunch. We went with the m-11 @ 25yrds. The owner of the gun went first (shot 5000+ rounds from this gun), He got ONE on the paper, not even in the scoreable part. Second friend went, got two on the paper, none scoreable. My Turn, I got an 8 and two on the paper. The plus side, the gun looks badass and has been the most reliable thing to shoot. It has never jammed, ftf or anything, just shoots. Mags are large and cheap. The down side, 30 rounds + 3 above average shooters = 7 bullets on the paper @ 25 yards. If the zombies attacked would I like to have one? Sure, but two would be better and a whole bunch of ammo. -JTP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Stony Creek is selling (and making?) those cut down models. Don't know if I'd but it, but their accessories are awesome. Plus, if you get a full size M11 pistol, you can get different uppers, etc, if you want to spend the additional $$. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jon elia 0 Posted December 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 i posted this before i shot it, went out shot it and felt the triggerslap....said no took it back and i sold my 9.5 inch pistol kit for cash.....my glock 22 will be here before thursday.....the mac did feed and eject fine....but the triggerslap made it quite a "pain" to shoot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 They are a WONDERFUL source of TRIGGER SLAP... A buddy of mine has one, and it SUCKS in that regards. Indeed... they sure are!!! Gotta love it!! Well, ok, ya DONT gotta but it sure would help! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 the mac did feed and eject fine....but the triggerslap made it quite a "pain" to shoot Was it an open bolt semi or closed bolt? I'm wondering if that makes any difference. Perhaps the closed bolt models are prone to trigger slap. My M11 doesn't give me any trouble firing, except for the occasional jam. An HK, it is certainly not Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jon elia 0 Posted December 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 it was closed bolt and me and steve found out they all do that, the only fixes are: open bolt semi or full auto Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 That makes since. Good to know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pistonring8 1 Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 Who cares about trigger slap if the pistol can't hit the broad side of a barn?! I understand that it would strictly be a round wasting "fun gun", but guys.....Come on. Other than looking cool and letting off alot of rounds, these are just playthings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 (edited) I never said it was practical. I'd me interested to see how accurate the longer barrels are. A 10 or 16in for instance. Edited December 26, 2005 by KySoldier Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 buy ten of em. the 11 is semi auto. the parts CAN be made to fit, but arent interchangeable from a mac 10. a mac 11 is the next best thing, pull that on a street urchin.....if you interchange the parts, further, you probably are comtting a crime. BUT its a cool gun. I wish I had several......n/m me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 I'd me interested to see how accurate the longer barrels are. A 10 or 16in for instance. see my response at the top... what I was shooting was a 16" carbine model. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 I'd me interested to see how accurate the longer barrels are. A 10 or 16in for instance. see my response at the top... what I was shooting was a 16" carbine model. Here's one with some of the other goodies. Damn good thing the mags are big cuz they're more spray and pray. Longer barrel helps some. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 That open case full of goodies just PROVES that shitty shooter or not... ya GOTTA HAVE ONE, cause they are DAMN COOL AS HELL!!! I said that before, I will say it again... I dont care HOW BAD they shoot... I would buy one, purely to HAVE IT... cause it DOES look badass, and you can do a lot with em!!! :up: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) That open case full of goodies just PROVES that shitty shooter or not... ya GOTTA HAVE ONE, cause they are DAMN COOL AS HELL!!! I said that before, I will say it again... I dont care HOW BAD they shoot... I would buy one, purely to HAVE IT... cause it DOES look badass, and you can do a lot with em!!! :up: Absoshittiglutely!!! Saw one for auction with just the pistol upper, one big mag, and faux suppressor for $600! They are a blast to just rip off a magfull at something (hopefully inanimate) as therapeutic stress relief! Ammo's cheap, and the guts are so simple even I tear into it without fear. Just put in a better recoil buffer. Forgot to include the muzzle brake in the pic. Big time trigger slap but for fun I don't give a farquar ! Edited January 14, 2006 by tritium Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 I got another one of Stonycreek's accessories... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 I got another one of Stonycreek's accessories... F'in SWEET!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Caspian 32 Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Stony Creek is selling (and making?) those cut down models. Don't know if I'd but it, but their accessories are awesome. Plus, if you get a full size M11 pistol, you can get different uppers, etc, if you want to spend the additional $$. Masterpiece Arms is making those. They have been in the M-11 business for 30 years making the guns under contract for other companies. They have finally began making them for themselves. They've improved the design and have sturdier parts such as firing pin, extractor and others. I am looking forward to a Mini M-11. I always had a soft spot for the M-12 (.380) which was much smaller and "cuter" than the M-11 (9mm). Now i get the combo of small size gun with a larger bullet. Caspian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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