Tightening up the barrel lock up in the slide?

[MegamanX 65]

Whats up guys need to learn more about this.

 

A guy I bought ammo from recommended this smith named Bill Springfield.

 

Saying this guy could do good work on my FNX Tactical.

 

I emailed him and this is basically what he had to say.

 

"I can drop the SA pull to around 3.5# and have a super crisp break. I also tighten up the barrel lock up in the slide which will close your groups up around 20%"

 

 

Can anyone shed any light on whether or not this is a safe thing to do for my handgun? Also does this void warranty?

 

Thanks.

[Voltia 375]

FNH pistols usually have a good trigger and lockup already.

[MegamanX 65]

I guess I need to understand more on the subject of why you would tighten up your lockup. It seems like you need to have some play or something could be too tight and snap or break.

[DrThunder88 912]

By making the tolerances closer, the way they fit while in battery should be more consistent shot to shot, potentially increasing accuracy but also decreasing debris-related reliability. That's the theory behind it, anyway. I don't know about FNs, but match barrels for Glocks and XDs usually have to be fitted at the top, front edge of the chamber area and the bottom of the feed ramp.

[jerry52 893]

By making the tolerances closer, the way they fit while in battery should be more consistent shot to shot, potentially increasing accuracy but also decreasing debris-related reliability. That's the theory behind it, anyway. I don't know about FNs, but match barrels for Glocks and XDs usually have to be fitted at the top, front edge of the chamber area and the bottom of the feed ramp.

Right on! But I think he is being given some BS because I do not think FN's have that problem

[dashowdy 141]

solution in search of a problem.

[jerry52 893]

You got it ,after all it is not a target gun.

[dashowdy 141]

that gun should be capable of 3 inch groups easily st 100 yards, that is as accurate as any other service pistol, so save that money and go buy ammo and practice, thats what I would do.

[jerry52 893]

Guns can be refined to much because we have nothing better to do. 3 inch groups in a service pistol will put the bad guys down every time . FN's are nice guns I wounder why I do not have one.

[dashowdy 141]

I though about one but i am happy with my M&P's but I may pick up a fn in 45 when they come out with one for there striker fired line, I think they only have the fns in 9mm and 40, also why do they not offer a compact line in these is beyond me.

[jerry52 893]

This is most likely why I do not have one. I know they shoot great but so do my other guns

[Voltia 375]

My FNP45 would like to say hello.

[MegamanX 65]

So you guys are saying accordance with FN's current specs for the FNX Tactical to not get this done?

 

Dont get me wrong Id love to buy more ammo but a chance to get a more custom pistol is always appealing to me.

 

I main concern was this creating too tight of a tolerance that something could eventually crack or break.

 

Anyone know if it would affect warranty?

[Voltia 375]

Hell yes this would affect warranty. FN would laugh at you. And there's no way some shade tree gunsmith would pay for the damages

if he fucked it up. Be happy with what it is, and learn to shoot better if you want tighter groups.

[Mullet Man 2,114]

I suggest going to fnforums.net and reading up or asking about trigger work on fnh's.

[MT Predator 2,294]

It is a service pistol. It will do as intended as it is not a target pistol and will never be one. Don't let bullshit smiths talk you into money out of your wallet for something they really cannot produce.

[MegamanX 65]

Not trying to advertise nothing on here but here is the guy I was talking to who said he could do this.

 

http://www.triggerwork.net/

 

Maybe some of you might know him. But I will listen to your advice MT on this one and not do this.

 

Thats what this forum is all about getting help and advice when needed. Thanks guys

[BigChongus 765]

Just google "Bill Springfield Problems". Quite a bit comes up

[MegamanX 65]

Wow I just did. Holy hell.

I'm glad I decided to not go through with this.

[Run and Gun 25]

that gun should be capable of 3 inch groups easily st 100 yards, that is as accurate as any other service pistol, so save that money and go buy ammo and practice, thats what I would do.

3" at 100 yards, that's almost impossible for any handgun. Maybe you meant 3" group at 50yards and that would be pushing it. Only high end bullseye pistols can shoot 3" or less at 50yards.

[jerry52 893]

I think we all know what he meant

[magsite20 1,664]

if your gun shoots within your ability to shoot it freehand now making it shoot a 1.25 inch group from a rest instead of a 1.5 inch group from a rest isn't really going to do much for you.

[dashowdy 141]

 

that gun should be capable of 3 inch groups easily st 100 yards, that is as accurate as any other service pistol, so save that money and go buy ammo and practice, thats what I would do.

3" at 100 yards, that's almost impossible for any handgun. Maybe you meant 3" group at 50yards and that would be pushing it. Only high end bullseye pistols can shoot 3" or less at 50yards.

sorry meant 25 yards dont know why I put 100, hell 3 inches at 50 is pushing it. Still hitting a man sized target at 100 yards with a service handgun is definitely achievable.

 

that being said a good trigger does help, the apex kit in my M&P 45c has definitely promoted better accuracy in my hands because of the crisp smooth take up and a nice break. The stock trigger on my pistol was less than junk when I got it. The single action on the fn is good to go out of the box in my opinion, just not a fan of double action. Always remember tighter usually never means reliable.

Edited September 3, 2013 by dashowdy

[jerry52 893]

Any lite strikes with the apex kit?

[Voltia 375]

Most of my pistols will not do 3 inches at 50. A USP Elite I have is about the only one I can think of that can.

 

It's fun to shoot the 100 yard rifle steel plate with it, just have to aim 6" high.

[dashowdy 141]

@ jerry-nope it retains the factory striker spring, it just changes the angle of the sear to give you a much cleaner and a couple of pounds lighter break. the new striker block takes all the grit out which I would say is the biggest improvement. I can shoot my dads stock m&p almost as good but a heck of alot slower because of the 8 pound spongey break and the total lack of reset feel.

The tightest group I know of out of a service pistol was 3/4 to 1 inch at 50 yards off a fixed rest from a sig 220 special edition, think it was the 220 elite, but I remember the advert claiming better than 1 inch at 50,. Minute of man is always accurate enough anything beyond that with the same reliability is gravy.

@voltia- it is fun slapping steel at distance with a pistol, you just gotta know your holdover with the 45 acp because it is dropping like 12 inches at 100 yards with a standard pressure 230 ball ammo. My 200 gr. reloads dont hit quite as low but still have some drop.

Edited September 4, 2013 by dashowdy

[MegamanX 65]

Most of my pistols will not do 3 inches at 50. A USP Elite I have is about the only one I can think of that can.

 

It's fun to shoot the 100 yard rifle steel plate with it, just have to aim 6" high.

 

Now youre just havin too much fun