beefcakeb99 572 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 I've had problems with second hand aftermarket wheels and lug nuts forever. It's a Ford ranger that the previous owner put mags on and every 4 way or lug wrench I try will not fit. Can anyone help me figure this out. Had to use a fucking wrench at an angle once to change the tire! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Einstein69 8 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 aftermarket wheel studs from summitracing.com and possibly a new set of lug nuts as well but only if any of the threading is damaged. -Stein sorry I misread. umm, buy proper size wrench, socket, or 4way that fits the lug nut maybe?? im assuming you have the "tuner style" lugs, average size is 19mm, get a metric 4way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted March 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 It's not a matter of the id of the wrench or socket or 4way... it's the thickness of said devices. There's so little of a gap only thin walled sockets are the only thing I've found to fit. It does mock the Mazda truck but the mags have Ford lug covers, I'd think the 3/4" would be correct but maybe 19mm is it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Einstein69 8 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 i had a 4way that fit my motegi wheels with the special lugs. check les schwab and see if you can get a socket to do the job and you may have to stick with a 1/2" drive ratchet or a torque wrech with that special socket. shitty thing about that is that you have to carry that tool with you in your vehicle instead of having it at home where it probably belongs. or any neighborhood auto zone, o'reilly, etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronin38 2,117 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 (edited) My last two cars came with 2-pc. lug nuts. Those cheap things are terrible! I replace them with Gorilla lug nuts, and I always use a breaker bar with a 6-point socket. Edited March 20, 2014 by Ronin38 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big John! 2,062 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 (edited) I've used Stanley sockets from wally world to get this done. They have a pretty thin wall. But I'm guessing you probably need some wafer thin socket??? Edited March 15, 2014 by Big John! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 (edited) My last two cars came with 2-pc. lug nuts. Those cheap things are terrible! I replace them with Gorilla lug nuts, and I always use a 1/12" breaker bar with a 6-point socket. I have Gorilla nuts on my Jeep because of the same issue... Hilariously, the Gorilla nuts are a larger wrench size than stock so I had to cut the head off of my factory lug wrench, find another wrench of the appropriate size, and weld them together so it would all fit in the factory jack kit. That said, Gorilla also makes the sockets that the OP is looking for and he could cut one up and weld it on to his factory wrench the same say I did. http://www.gorilla-auto.com/thin-wall-sockets-page-02 edit: Oh, yeah... They're only about $7/ea.. Edited March 15, 2014 by Maxwelhse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Maybe get some longer nuts? Or would that kill the look? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 thin wall impact driven by a 12 VDC impact that plugs into your cigarette lighter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhiskeyMinion 300 Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Just go but a cheap thin wall socket in the correct size, and a decent 1/2" ratchet. Throw it behind the seat and forget about it until you need it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magsite20 1,664 Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 I’ve hit a point with lug nuts and the tools provided with the vehicle that I carry a 3 foot breaker bar and a 6 point socket to get them off. Most of my vehicles come with a lug wrench roughly the size and usefulness of a tooth brush at removing a nut applied with an air hammer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 I usually ring one off if I'm changing more than one tire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TIMTIMTIM 57 Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 My guess is gorilla lugs! I had them on an old car. The wall of the socket is damn thin. I broke one and cannot remember for the life of me where I got a new socket from. Hope this helps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 I don't think Beefcake is coming back to his thread... He's probably on the side of the road with a flat, a stick, a rock, and plenty of swearing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted March 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 Yea it's been an on going battle for years of laziness. I've got 4 of the 5broken lloose using some wd40 and a big ass breaker bar but started rounding the final one. Going to switch sockets and try again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 You've been messing around for a week to get a single wheel off? No can do... Without more playing around, I'd honestly ditch those wheels and put some factory steelies on it unless you have a big aversion to doing so... It would probably cost you nothing after you trade your mags in if they're nice shape. My drivers need to be 100% functional above all else... If it's a show truck, then, well, buy more tools (and for God's sake... get AAA already... You could have pushed it into the street at let them fuck with it by now)... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 I'd just get some long nuts in a standard size. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 I'd just get some long nuts in a standard size. That would work great too, but would probably cost more than the right socket. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Once, your have them all removed, I would suggest to coat the threads of the lugs with Anti-Seize Compound. http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/Anti-Seize-Compounds-Lubricants-Copper/_/R-MMM08945_0006436584 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted March 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Ive actually went well beyond a week on this junk. I bought a lug nut removal tool for the rounded nut and theres not enough space for it to grab, I'm about to try a can of fix a flat and drive it to the damn spare tire to get a used tire and new nuts I finally found a thin walled socket but ended up with a rounded off nut! Such a pita Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) I remember once, I had to break a lug off of an old car years ago to remove the nut. Wasn't fun. There is a special socket that addresses this problem, I would try and locate one and give it a try. Edited March 27, 2014 by yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted March 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 I paid $12 for this similar tool the other day. And it will not fit. Just barely grabs the outside of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Sounds like a plasma cutter is in order. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted March 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 I think that's a last resort I'm going to try a few other options before I ruin anything Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 You might consider welding a regular nut on the top of that rounded off lugnut so you can get it off. Then I think I'd probably do what AK Monty suggested since even the right socket doesn't fit. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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