Looking at New Deer/Target Rifles

[patriot 7,197]

Savage and Ruger may be entry level rifles if you're talking precision rifles. That's not what they're for. They're cheap, rugged rifles that will shoot MOA or under ....

.........Just like a precision rifle!

[SmilinEd 364]

Have we helped or made the decision worse...?

[RED333 1,025]

and muddied the water but good.

[THE NEW GUY 113]

I own an old stainless Ruger in 270 and under 300 yards with Hornady 130 grains sst  its katy bar the door , but if I was going to buy a new one it would be a Savage . I have a friend that works at Buds gun shop and all he owns are Savages and he does a lot of predator hunting. I shot his in 243 and the groups touch at 200 yards . They shoot pretty nice. I Don't think I would but a Remington they are owned by Cerebus group . I would also say look at a Howa with a houge stock my son shoots one in 308 with hornady 150 grain sst bullets and it is a nail driver they make weatherby and you can get one for around 500 for a 300 win mag , but they are not stainless but they are nice bolt guns very accurate and the houge stock feels good.

[DLT 1,646]

Just drop a scope on a saiga and go shoot. Yesterday my brother and I mounted cheap dust cover scope mounts with equally cheap 3 x 9 scopes on our mak 90's and had a hell of a good time at the range. Both rifles grouped surprisingly well at about 120 yards. They are not tack drivers, but we did hit consistently on or right around the bullseye with cheap Ukrainian hot shot ammo.

[ChileRelleno 7,071]

Just drop a scope on a saiga and go shoot. Yesterday my brother and I mounted cheap dust cover scope mounts with equally cheap 3 x 9 scopes on our mak 90's and had a hell of a good time at the range. Both rifles grouped surprisingly well at about 120 yards. They are not tack drivers, but we did hit consistently on or right around the bullseye with cheap Ukrainian hot shot ammo.

Ya mean like this?

 

Saiga.308-ver.21

 

 

100 yards

 

Edited December 29, 2014 by ChileRelleno

[DLT 1,646]

Bingo!

[LuPiN8oR 333]

The only drawback to using an s308 with a 21.5in barrel as a hunting rig is weight. Mine weighs every bit of 12lbs with the m.i. rail and vortex 2.5-10, using the factory 8rnd mag. I love the gun but don't really wanna tote that around up n down these mountains, and I bet chili shares that sentiment as well!

[ChileRelleno 7,071]

Bingo!

Yeah, but deer rifle she is not.

Oh she'll do in a shooting house, but too big, cumbersome & heavy for tree stands or stalking.

 

She isn't a target rifle either, just a range toy really.

I've contemplated selling her so many times & then thought better of it.

[SmilinEd 364]

Chile,

 

I've been giving your post a great deal of thought...

 

I have a NIB Savage Axis 308,  4rd mag, cheap stock, lousy trigger,

 

Upgrades will be,

 

Boyd's Forest Camo stock,

 

Trigger Mod,

 

10 rd mag mod.

 

Scope, most likely Nikon, that's what I have on the mod 93 BTVSS.

 

Now I find out that Savage is making the Axis 308 with heavy barrel.

 

Now I might have to sell original axis, bcuz I believe that the new heavy barrel will be a real shooter..

 

Suggested retail on the Axis Heavy is $382

 

Thanks for giving me a headache too....

[DLT 1,646]

Ok. Well then there is only one true solution acceptable to AK owners: get a mosin!

[SmilinEd 364]

Dude, I have 2 already, 1 is my sons tho.

 

WTF up with the Twinkie Avatar...????

Edited December 29, 2014 by SmilinEd

[ChileRelleno 7,071]

Thanks DLT, but I don't need another 91/30 or 44.

 

SmilinEd, some problems are good problems.

[SmilinEd 364]

Heavy Barrel Axis 308, I'll toss and turn tonite... I will have to see if mag mod is GTG still

 

But anywho, just thought you would like to know

[LuPiN8oR 333]

Let me know if the mag mod is still viable, if it is that may be what I end up getting as opposed to the ruger American.

[SmilinEd 364]

I'll call Savage tmrw and ask if detachable mags for both rifles are interchangeable, if they are then mag mod is GTG. There are some 15rd mags also....

 

Pure gun porn... Sweet...

[ChileRelleno 7,071]

Pure gun porn... Sweet...

Where's the porn, share dang'it!

[SmilinEd 364]

I will have to find some old pics from before the tragic boating accident... tmrw

 

Same barrel lengths 22in on both Mod 16 WW and the Axis Heavy,

 

Mag porn...

 

http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/fgwinfla/media/AK-xis001.jpg.html

 

http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/fgwinfla/media/223mag013.jpg.html

 

Thread for axis 10rd mag from SavageShooters.com

 

http://www.savageshooters.com/showthread.php?32154-Savage-223-Extended-Mag

 

Also dude in Ohio makes 308 mags, kinda pricey but nothing is cheap

 

http://www.snydermags.com/products.html

Edited December 30, 2014 by SmilinEd

[DLT 1,646]

Sorry about the avatar guys. The wife was standing over me the other day and had a major meltdown when she saw the babe I had in my avatar. Believe it or not, a few years ago she had a body that rivaled the avatar chick, but a year of prednisone totally messed her up. I tell her all the time she is still beautiful and the only woman I need and want in my life, but the avatar caused some issues so out of respect to her, I changed to the quickest thing in my pictures folder.

[Spacehog 2,218]

Sorry about the avatar guys. The wife was standing over me the other day and had a major meltdown when she saw the babe I had in my avatar. Believe it or not, a few years ago she had a body that rivaled the avatar chick, but a year of prednisone totally messed her up. I tell her all the time she is still beautiful and the only woman I need and want in my life, but the avatar caused some issues so out of respect to her, I changed to the quickest thing in my pictures folder.

You're a good man. Sometimes it sucks dealing with the insecurity, but a real man will do whatever he has to to make the woman he loves feel like she is number 1. Good for you.

[Spacehog 2,218]

Chile,

I own a Savage 10 and a Remington SPS Tactical both in .308. Both are sub MOA out of the box with the right ammo. I'd give the Savage factory trigger the edge over the two, but not by much. I know it's not much help, but if hunting is the primary purpose, I think any of the choices in the poll will suit you well for dropping Bambi. If the rifle will have other purposes, (target shooting etc,) then there are some on the list that may perform better than others in certain areas.

 

For hunting purposes, I would look at weight and which one is offering the best deal at the moment, because everyone on the list is going to hit what you are aiming at if you do your part.

[SmilinEd 364]

One response to the mag question from Savage Shooters, dude said the mags from both rifles interchange and added as long the mags are for same caliber.

 

Savage is closed until Jan 5th, that includes their website also, the store portion, wanted to cross reference the mags see if same part number came up..

[ChileRelleno 7,071]

Well, I've had the chance to fondle the following

 

Remington 700 BDL

Remington 700 SPS

Tikka T3 Lite

Savage 16/FCSS Weather Warrior

Ruger American All Weather

Weatherby Vanguard S2

 

Two favorites so far, the Remington 700 BDL & the Savage...  With the Tikka coming in close behind.

 

As much as I'm set on synthetic & stainless, the BDL is a class act.

I really liked the wood & finish and it's checkering was deep & crisp.

The metal was much the same fit & finish wise and the iron sights were very useable.

Also, it's bolt had the smoothest action.

Edited January 4, 2015 by ChileRelleno

[ChileRelleno 7,071]

Just pulled the trigger on the Savage 116/FCSS .308win.

[XD45 7,124]

Model 16 is the short action.  116 is the long action.

 

Don't think you'll have any regrets.

 

But now you have to pick your glass.

Edited January 31, 2015 by Darth Saigus

[ChileRelleno 7,071]

Neither do I, I took the time to fondle quite a few rifles, the Savage kept right up there in the top three choices.

 

I was really torn on the Remington 700 BDL, it is really sexy & I love iron sights.

But the Savage will take a beating better than the 700's beautiful wood.

 

The Tikka T3 just somehow kept feeling like a toy gun.

[patriot 7,197]

Take a look @ Burris. A lot of scope for the money...

[ChileRelleno 7,071]

Take a look @ Burris. A lot of scope for the money...

I'm a Vortex fanboy, followed by Nikon... But I'll take a look.

[XD45 7,124]

My Savage 11 XP came with Nikon glass and I have no inclination to change it.

[ChileRelleno 7,071]

My Savage 11 XP came with Nikon glass and I have no inclination to change it.

I've used the cheap $200. Nikon Prostaffs & they performed 100% satisfactorily.

Couldn't tell the difference between them & a $500 Monarch 7 or Viper Vortex.

When you're hunting at a max 200 yards, you just don't need $1K tacti'cool glass.