evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 No. You need a different spring, pin, and separate retainer clip. Look in the receiver at the front and note how much space there is vertically. The latch fits, no room for that spring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Trigger guard rivets are their own special ball of fuck. They are very difficult to do without one of the purpose built jigs, FYI. hmmm, i dont understand.... i take the OG guard, grind the extra crap off it, fold the front tab around 180 after heating redhot, then just make a shop head on the outside with any given flat bar, easy sleazy He was talking about using Curtis' conversion trigger guard kit that has rivets on the sides like a regular AK trigger guard. There's no clearance between the edge of the rivet head and the side of the trigger guard for a standard rivet set/punch, and you also need an offset buck to form the shop head due to interference with the receiver rails. There's a special jig made for setting these rivets in a hydraulic press which is the best way to go, but even then they are a pain. A gunsmith friend of mine modified a rivet set to make clearance with the trigger guard, which seems to work OK for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
703 CamaroSS 1 Posted October 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Damn I guess il be calling Russian legion to see if they can send me the pin, clip, and spring. And Matco sent me the wrong rivet set... so I called a local places and they said they can do the trunnion rivets and trigger guard rivets for 60 dollars so il just going to go that route and let them rivet the parts on. Their also going to cerekote it for me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HarvKY 72 Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Congrats on joining the S12 tribe. Here's the correct front latch for the S12 http://ak-builder.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30057 Curtis at AK-builder also has rivets and most anything else needed usually. That front latch needs to be precise so I suggest you take the time to search this site for instructional threads. There should be a diagram with precise measurements posted in at least one thread here as I recall. The Russian/Bulgy triangle folding stock is possibly the single most identifiable AK item. It is however, designed for the rifles and krinks (SBR). Looking through this site, you'll find a few pictures of folks who installed a triangle on their S12. More power to them but that's way too much abuse on my shoulder. There are a couple diff recoil pads made for the triangle but I'd consider the solid black poly AK100 folding stock. Just make sure to get everything in the same pin size, either 4.5mm or 5.5mm. ...and remember that these are "foreign" parts which add up on the 922r total. Best of luck Harv 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 The effect of the triangle can be mitigated with no pad. However, without good technique it will punish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
703 CamaroSS 1 Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Yeah I found the measurements on another thread. My co worker has the gun currently and is working on cutting the holes with his cnc machine so it will be precise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 The Russian/Bulgy triangle folding stock is possibly the single most identifiable AK item. It is however, designed for the rifles and krinks (SBR). Looking through this site, you'll find a few pictures of folks who installed a triangle on their S12. More power to them but that's way too much abuse on my shoulder. Yeah, 12 gauge recoil was nearly the entire reason I designed the stock that is on my S-12... I wanted something that had a similar look to one of the triangles, with the ability to take a big fat Limbsaver pad, compatible with the modular stock system popularized by ACE. Didn't want to screw with the receiver mods for the Russian style or lock myself into that one type of stock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Using the AK100 was more about weight, strength, and how compact it is when folded. The WARSAW always felt perfect to me, so the AK100 was a natural transition from the fixed WARSAW stocks that I was accustomed to. However, for budget, ease of install, and comfort I really like the Magpul Zhukov. That one is great as long as you don't plan on running over it or freezing it and buttstroking boulders Quote Link to post Share on other sites
703 CamaroSS 1 Posted November 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Well machine work to receiver is almost done. Just have to do the holes for the rear latch for the stock. I've come to realize how the spring and front latch work now that it's coming together. I didint realize the spring was held in by the handguard. So am I pretty much limited now to the stock handguard? I'm not sure I will be able to use this chaos tri rail with the ak 100 stock due to the front latch. Edited November 2, 2016 by 703 CamaroSS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
703 CamaroSS 1 Posted November 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 Nevermind I figured it out. I will just have to machine a hole in the handguard for the spring and cut a small notch for the clip to clear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
703 CamaroSS 1 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) Just got my gun back from my co worker and he did an excellent job machiNing the receiver. Now I'm going to test fit everything and if it turns out to be all good. I'm going to take it to get the rivets instalked and cerekote. Can't wait to shoot it. He machines the pistol grip nut hole, the the end of the receiver, the front latch hole on the side, and the front latch pin hole. Edited November 3, 2016 by 703 CamaroSS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Looks good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) im having relapses of converting these things..... folders liked to deal with the thickness of the reciever metals.......just sayin. pounded into place Edited November 6, 2016 by Ben Vampatella Quote Link to post Share on other sites
703 CamaroSS 1 Posted November 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) Ran into some problems machiNing a hole for the spring on the chaos hand guard. Wasn't enough meet on it to drill a hole so we had to make this bracket to replace the original bracket it came with. The original one is on the bottom picture. Edited November 14, 2016 by 703 CamaroSS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
703 CamaroSS 1 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Update! Saigas been done. Now i purchased a saiga 7.62x39 with 16 inch barrel i will be converting. Picked it up for 400! Anyways here are some final picks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Machinist 150 Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Update! Saigas been done. Now i purchased a saiga 7.62x39 with 16 inch barrel i will be converting. Picked it up for 400! Anyways here are some final picks. Very nice! Great work! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
703 CamaroSS 1 Posted October 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 Thank you! Long barrel makes it look weird with the stock folded but still wasnt worth cutting down unless i went sbs. Btw if anyone could point me in the correct direction of where to find an ak74 gas tube for my saiga 7.62 conversion that would be great! Every place says out of stock that i checked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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