kristopher_robin 0 Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/43/188394.html This is not my, one guy from guns.ru has got it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tomovich 0 Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 UNREAL!!! That guy stole one of my pics in his thread! Kinda funny considering he's in Europe or Russia (I assume). I thought that serial number looked FAMILIAR!!!!!!!!!!! That was in my 12 ga conversion thread. Wow.......I want royalties. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 (edited) My translator butchered it so bad that I couldn't make sense of the thread. My assumption is that the T nut and slot is for the installation and it only applies to the new style mags and probably won't work with our "old style" mags in the U.S. The other interesting thing is that it appears to have the magwell priced at 400 rubles ($15 U.S.) and the mag, or possibly mag and magwell for 1070 rubles ($40 U.S.) Edit out Ruseller comment to be a little less offensive and not disturb the thread, but that's quite a mark up and I don't buy into all the bad customs agents theory as there's plenty of other stuff coming out of Russia at a decent price but any b.s. that comes from my mouth is just that. MAC TECH, thanks for the translation. much better than the babblefish Edited February 1, 2007 by 6500rpm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jgillaspy 24 Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 The other interesting thing is that it appears to have the magwell priced at 400 rubles ($15 U.S.) and the mag, or possibly mag and magwell for 1070 rubles ($40 U.S.) If that's correct, Russeller's a DICK even if he's about the only game in town. Capitalism at its finest!!! Charge what the market will bear. Darn, those Russians learn fast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 The T headed bolt must be to fasten the front lug to the receiver, but I don't know why it has that rectangular head on it. Is it to put into a rectangular hole and turn 90 degrees? But then it becomes a stud and how do you tighten the magwell to it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inparidel 4 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I beg your pardon, But Rueseller has always dealt with me in an ethical and fair fashion. But as I said, that was me and my friends. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MAC_TEK 0 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) I found this online web translation page: http://www.systransoft.com/index.html Here is the mag well page translated and saved to pdf. Magwell.pdf Edited January 31, 2007 by MAC_TEK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kristopher_robin 0 Posted January 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 To tomovich: Is it really your??? COOL!!! :D:D I`ll inform that guy about it. Nice surprize! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AegisDei 2 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 But Rueseller has always dealt with me in an ethical and fair fashion. But as I said, that was me and my friends. I also believe that if a part is lost at customs, he replaces it out of his pocket. Not to mention, international shipping is expensive. So the markup isn't as bad as it seems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
az_shootist 0 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 If you really want this part, and don't want to go through ruseller, you should contact rusmilitary and see if they can get it for you. The PG is just bought from them was not originally on their site. I showed them a picture of another grip and asked him if they could get one. Within a few days they added it (actually a newer better version) to their site for me. Once I purchased it, I had it within a week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K1196A 0 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 But Rueseller has always dealt with me in an ethical and fair fashion. But as I said, that was me and my friends. I also believe that if a part is lost at customs, he replaces it out of his pocket. Not to mention, international shipping is expensive. So the markup isn't as bad as it seems. AND DON'T FORGET THE PALMS OF RUSSIAN CUSTOM'S INSPECTORS THAT HE HAS TO GREASE. NOBODY IN RUSSIA WILL EVEN SELL THIS STUFF TO YOU BECAUSE OF THE CUSTOM'S HASSLES!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZakherBakher 1 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) Edited January 31, 2007 by ZakherBakher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore 3 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 ZB, there are a few solutions floating around, but no single definitive magwell. Fins seem to have it down pat, there are a few working up the solution here. I've talked with a guy that had a solution in place years ago, but didn't see the demand (I'm currently begging for one of his remaining setup's from the original run). But it won't add a part, as it's not recognized as a part by our ATF (you didn't think it would make sense, did you ). I agree with the AK + drum thing. Besides, with a drum, who cares how fast your mag changes are anyways? ehehehehehe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZakherBakher 1 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 But it won't add a part, as it's not recognized as a part by our ATF (you didn't think it would make sense, did you ). Woops Sure I didn't Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaneman153a 39 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Also Cobra had to sacrafice a 8rder for the 10 rder to happen....who's got the magwell to anaylze? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 I still don't get how you use that rectangular headed screw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZakherBakher 1 Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 (edited) I still don't get how you use that rectangular headed screw. I think it have to be inserted to the receiver from inside then tightened from outside. It seems like a crude screw stop from outside. To be sure that it's also fixes screw in terms of turn inside the receiver due to this shape or have to be inserted from outside and then turn 90 deg and then tightened I have to get my Saiga from repair first. Edited February 2, 2007 by ZakherBakher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tomovich 0 Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 To tomovich:Is it really your??? COOL!!! :D:D I`ll inform that guy about it. Nice surprize! Da, konyeshno moy drug! Fotograf menya. No nyet problem. Vot.......moya Saiga.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 12-C with a RAA stamp? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tomovich 0 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 12-C with a RAA stamp? That's all my doing. I converted that. I stamped the "C". In retrospect I should have stamped it a "K" considering the less than 19" bbl. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K1196A 0 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 That's all my doing. I converted that. I stamped the "C". In retrospect I should have stamped it a "K" considering the less than 19" bbl. What a loser! I'd still say you did a pretty impressive job!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 12-C with a RAA stamp? That's all my doing. I converted that. I stamped the "C". In retrospect I should have stamped it a "K" considering the less than 19" bbl. D'oH! well looks like i earned my retard points for the day good job on the build Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inparidel 4 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Just a point. . .there has alot of talk about the pics showing the receiver surgery Whilw there IS pics of the magwell, and the red color indicated the contact points for the magwell, all the rest of the surgery pics consist of the installation of a left folding stock, notr the magwell. Are there any additional pics/urls that address the magwell installation? Also, the Finns have told us that if you grind off the front metal mag lug, the mags will work with the magwells (at least the aluminum copies of them that the Finns made). Apparently, the friction and close fit of the well combined with the rear locking tab is all you need to make them work. Once the mag is in the well, the rear tab is all you need to hold it in place. Then you have an AR-style straight in and out mag situation with the rear tab release as the only action needed. The ribs on the top of the older mags also need to be ground down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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