hjustein 1 Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 What is the going rate for an unconverted .223? Are there any out there with mag dimples? thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Classic Arms has 'em for $260. Ones with dimples reportedly exist but I've never seen one. Think Gilbert's Guns keeps an eye out for dimpled Saigas. You may want to check with them also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
devildog1122 0 Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 I contacted raac and the rep guy said he already put in a request to russia to dimple their .223, 762 and 308 by the end of the year. I just hope they will do it.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Hey that's pretty cool, I requested the longer magazine bodies from RAAC, had a chat with an ATF guy and he said if it was for personal use then they didn't see a problem with the longer mag bodies in a converted rifle... never know though.. can just hope for the best... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longhunter-CO 0 Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 I contacted raac and the rep guy said he already put in a request to russia to dimple their .223, 762 and 308 by the end of the year Yea! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerclaw_x 1 Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 I contacted raac and the rep guy said he already put in a request to russia to dimple their .223, 762 and 308 by the end of the year Yea! At the risk of sounding ignorant... what is so special about the "dimpled receiver" rifle? Is the receiver thicker? Better heat treated? Reinforced? What is the point of having "dimpled" receiver? Thanx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Bob 0 Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 At the risk of sounding ignorant... what is so special about the "dimpled receiver" rifle? Is the receiver thicker? Better heat treated? Reinforced? What is the point of having "dimpled" receiver? Thanx The "dimples" serve as magazine 'guides' - they keep the mag from 'wobbling' side-to-side... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 At the risk of sounding ignorant... what is so special about the "dimpled receiver" rifle? Is the receiver thicker? Better heat treated? Reinforced? What is the point of having "dimpled" receiver? The dimples are more true to the military AK's. They are also used as a tactile cue to help find the mag well in the dark when in the field. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 I asked this before but didn't get an answer... Is there a way to add the dimples to an existing non dimpled rifle? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 I asked this before but didn't get an answer... Is there a way to add the dimples to an existing non dimpled rifle? Don't think so. At least never heard of it being done. Remember how hard that receiver alloy is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 I figured so much.. oh well, I'm just hoping to get the Saiga into some what of an AK1xx style before I have to let it rest in the safe... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dyi 0 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 I asked this before but didn't get an answer... Is there a way to add the dimples to an existing non dimpled rifle? Yes, search in the forums at gunsnet or akfiles in the WASR section. Some of those guys like to add dimples to the formerly single stack guns. Its basically a male and female side smashed in a press. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Thanks for the heads up. I have no means to do that here though, but cool none the less. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micah360 6 Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 I asked this before but didn't get an answer... Is there a way to add the dimples to an existing non dimpled rifle? Yes, search in the forums at gunsnet or akfiles in the WASR section. Some of those guys like to add dimples to the formerly single stack guns. Its basically a male and female side smashed in a press. I have seen photos of a 223 Saiga that someone added dimples to. IIFC he said it was a major pain and would never do it again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hjustein 1 Posted July 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 I asked this before but didn't get an answer... Is there a way to add the dimples to an existing non dimpled rifle? Yes, search in the forums at gunsnet or akfiles in the WASR section. Some of those guys like to add dimples to the formerly single stack guns. Its basically a male and female side smashed in a press. I have seen photos of a 223 Saiga that someone added dimples to. IIFC he said it was a major pain and would never do it again. I would imagine it was a pain... the receiver is hardened from the factory, forming dimples in it after that would be a stone cold pants wetting bitch in my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jgillaspy 24 Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 On-Point has them for $243 + $13.25 shipping. . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micah360 6 Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Here's the link to the gun that had the dimples added. dimples Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sudaevpps43 31 Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 I asked this before but didn't get an answer... Is there a way to add the dimples to an existing non dimpled rifle? Yes, search in the forums at gunsnet or akfiles in the WASR section. Some of those guys like to add dimples to the formerly single stack guns. Its basically a male and female side smashed in a press. I have seen photos of a 223 Saiga that someone added dimples to. IIFC he said it was a major pain and would never do it again. I would imagine it was a pain... the receiver is hardened from the factory, forming dimples in it after that would be a stone cold pants wetting bitch in my opinion. In full agreement here. The only way to properly dimple any kalashnikov receiver is while it is still a flat, and its metal is relatively soft. Once it is bent to shape and receives heat treating to harden it, trying to add dimples to the receiver becomes many times more difficult than before, primarily because of the newly acquired hardness of the receiver, but also because it is now a U-shape rather than flat. So even if you had a press that could apply the necessary pressure, trying to add the dimples without damaging or bending any other part of the receiver out of spec would be a real pain. If a user wants to add some sort of guide to reduce mag wobble, it is a far easier and much more practical option to tac weld some metal spacers on both sides of the inside of the magazine well. The only reason I could see for going with dimples instead of spacers, is if you were trying to recreate the look of a military AK, like the guy in micah360's link was doing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longhunter-CO 0 Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 What about spot welding two mag stabilizers on the inside of the receiver and then milling out two dimple indintations. You may have to MIG/TIG the sheet metal reciever to the spacers after milling. Then grind back to re-contour afterwards. Just a thought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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