Squib 0 Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Does anyone have any experience with the receiver cover scope mounting systems? Are they any good? They seem less expensive than the mount that attaches from the side. Are they stable? Do you lose zero each time you clean the rifle? Thanks for the answers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Does anyone have any experience with the receiver cover scope mounting systems? Are they any good? They seem less expensive than the mount that attaches from the side. Are they stable? Do you lose zero each time you clean the rifle? Thanks for the answers! They are generally not thought very highly of, because of the instability of the receiver cover and loss of zero as you stated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squib 0 Posted November 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Thank you for the comment. I kinda thought so, perhaps they would be OK for a siting system such as red dot instead of a scope? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aloxite 1 Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Nope, they aren't good for anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cryptkeeper 0 Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 im thinking about getting this 1 http://copesdist.com/images/117-1703_IMG.jpg any1 got 1 of these from http://copesdist.com/ak47.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaywalker 1 Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Not only will this mount system lose zero every time you clean the weapon, it will also lose zero every time you fire the weapon. These are made to satiate the american need to start hanging things from our rifles. Don't get me wrong... scoping an AK is not necessarily a bad idea but without the right mount you are chasing a result that you will never achieve. I might suggest that if your weapon does not have a side mount it might be better off left with the iron sights. Just an opinion based on experience. Now... The iron sights can be greatly improved with the addition of a mojo sight, but that should be left to another thread... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cryptkeeper 0 Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Not only will this mount system lose zero every time you clean the weapon, it will also lose zero every time you fire the weapon. These are made to satiate the american need to start hanging things from our rifles. Don't get me wrong... scoping an AK is not necessarily a bad idea but without the right mount you are chasing a result that you will never achieve. I might suggest that if your weapon does not have a side mount it might be better off left with the iron sights. Just an opinion based on experience. Now... The iron sights can be greatly improved with the addition of a mojo sight, but that should be left to another thread... have you had one of those rails and had problems or just speculation? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
monomonk 0 Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Ditto on the uselessness of the cover mounts. I have also had big problems using using the side mounts. They seem to be so far off in one or more directions that I have to shim the mount. And I have trouble knowing how to shim it the right way. All my other rifles are easier to scope. Monomonk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr. fudd 0 Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 A very tight fitting top cover mount can sometimes work alright. I had one once on a SAR3 and it was good for 3" groups with it at 100 yards. A siderail mount will work much better though and doesn't cost that much more. If you get a siderail mount, be sure to get a scope with a large range of adjustment. The siderails often aren't perfectly aligned with the bore and having that extra bit of adjustment is usually enough to compensate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eugene Onegin 6 Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 It's a ChomBloc weapon so use a POSP type scope ,I'm happy with mine . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Ferguson 0 Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 The receiver cover units are mostly crap. I had a good friend that had one on his Mak 90 and it drove us both nuts trying to keep it zeroed. The Saiga comes with a side rail....it has a purpose! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eugene Onegin 6 Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 This is what I did . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NY-proletariat 0 Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 It really looks like a nice rifle ! At what range is it zeroed and with what type of ammo? What loads shoot the best? Standard weight bullets or heavier? How far has been your longest shot and at what type of target and conditions? Does that com bloc scope work well? Are your windage and elevation changes repeatable with that scope? Do you have an easy time using your scope with that stock? (cheek weld) Or does your head move around alot? Do you use it from the bench or do you sling up? If you do sling up,do you notice an impact change when you sling up? I am really interested and I'm not trying to be a smart ass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TWGLADF 0 Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 the posp scopes are the way to scope an ak. especially a 308. i tried the cover mount on 308 and could not get it to hold zero. however, on my 223 after i torqued the hell out of the set screws it held zero! cdnn has the best deal on posp 8x42 scope. and it's the rarer BLACK model. looks damn good on my saiga 308. it holds zero, optics are crystal clear, and shoots nice tight groups. also has illuminated reticle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
res45 4 Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 cdnn has the best deal on posp 8x42 scope. and it's the rarer BLACK model. looks damn good on my saiga 308. it holds zero, optics are crystal clear, and shoots nice tight groups. also has illuminated reticle. Try this place they have a better selection and price. http://www.eastwave.ca/products/scopes/posp8x42vd.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motopilot1 37 Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 http://copesdist.com/images/117-1703_IMG.jpg there is absolutely no reason that this rail would not retain zero it doesnt sit in the dust cover it attaches in place of the sight and to the stock mount point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultragooey 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 If lining up on the barrel centerline is what you're looking for, I went with this combo at the suggestion of someone here. from http://www.tickbitesupply.com/ak.html + from http://www.binocularsmart.com/scopes/ak-ak...ver-mount.shtml I'll try to take & post pics after I get the rifle back from my smith. I fired a couple hundred rounds before I took my rifle apart for some mods and conversion, and was very pleased to find that it held zero even after removing the mount and switching back and forth between an NCstar red-dot sight mounted on another one of the above mounts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Ferguson 0 Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 That is the same UTG mount that CDNN sells. I have one on an X39 rifle. It does not line the scope up directly over the barrel. Mine is off to the right. It didn't matter in terms of sighting in, I thought initially that it might be a problem in using up windage but it only took a few clicks to bring it in. It works fine but to my eye it appears to be center right. Again, in any case, it works and I think it was $40. Shot 5 hogs with it so far and the light rail has been great, got a Surefire 9V on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultragooey 0 Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 It's right down the middle on my rifle, but if it lined up right of center, it'd still work for me since I shoot lefty. I just found it awkward using the POSP scopes with the integrated mounting bracket that lined them up left of center. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaNoobie 66 Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 It does indeed line it up off to the right but just barely, and I mean 1-2mm barely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eugene Onegin 6 Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 NY I just got the scope and have'nt had a chance do do any shooting. It really looks like a nice rifle ! At what range is it zeroed and with what type of ammo? What loads shoot the best? Standard weight bullets or heavier? How far has been your longest shot and at what type of target and conditions? Does that com bloc scope work well? Are your windage and elevation changes repeatable with that scope? Do you have an easy time using your scope with that stock? (cheek weld) Or does your head move around alot? Do you use it from the bench or do you sling up? If you do sling up,do you notice an impact change when you sling up? I am really interested and I'm not trying to be a smart ass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NY-proletariat 0 Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 NY I just got the scope and have'nt had a chance do do any shooting.It really looks like a nice rifle ! At what range is it zeroed and with what type of ammo? What loads shoot the best? Standard weight bullets or heavier? How far has been your longest shot and at what type of target and conditions? Does that com bloc scope work well? Are your windage and elevation changes repeatable with that scope? Do you have an easy time using your scope with that stock? (cheek weld) Or does your head move around alot? Do you use it from the bench or do you sling up? If you do sling up,do you notice an impact change when you sling up? I am really interested and I'm not trying to be a smart ass. When you do get a chance to run her through the ringer, please let us know about the results. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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