sicktooth 8 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 my friend and i each bought a saiga and molder mags the other day. fitted the mag catch and chambered some rounds! WORKS WITH OUT THE BULLET GUIDE...i don't plan on using any other mags...mabey some saiga factory mags but thats it. just thought id let you guys know...will be posting pics of the builds soon... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmax4x4 68 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 huu! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldandslow 3 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Did you try any 47 round mags? I have two 47 round Molder mags. One fails on the last round. The other works fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Did you try any 47 round mags? I have two 47 round Molder mags. One fails on the last round. The other works fine. wonder if you can epoxy in a snap cap as a last round.. could also work as a bolt hold open...possibly.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I tried a 30 round Master Molder before I added a feed ramp and it worked. Now I can use both AK and Saiga mags. I also used a Yugo magazine which holds the bolt open on the last round but doesn't lock the BHO in the open position. Maybe Tapco or someone else can make a US made Yugo follower. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paladin 37 Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I tried a MM at the range today and it also worked without any FTF's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
medicff0879 0 Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Is this the same mag.? http://www.cdnninvestments.com/ak7630lemamo.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paladin 37 Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 shop around, some places have them for 9 to 10 bucks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean.223 365 Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Think this would also work with .223s??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sicktooth 8 Posted March 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 thats odd...i got mine from I.O. INC. and paid $9 a piece...looks like you cant get them that cheap anymore!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shellshock1918 1 Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 I just realized it will take 4-6 weeks for my bullet guide from dinzag to come in, so I wanted to make sure, do master molder mags work without a bullet guide? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldandslow 3 Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Molder Mags work for me, without a bullet guide. The front of the magazine is actually higher that the Saiga 10 round magazine. (Where the bullet slides over the front of the magazine.) You have to modify the mags to "click" into your mag release. Some suggest modifying the mag release lever, I am not in favor of modifying the lever. I also lowered the front of my 47 round mags to match the height of my Saiga 10 rounder. I was having last round FTF. After lowering, problem has not returned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sicktooth 8 Posted March 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Shellshock the moulder mags work WITHOUT the bullet guide. you have to file down the tang on the back of the mag to make it fit, but its plastic...i fitted mine in like 2 min...no big deal man. then you can at least shoot some hi caps! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
armorshrike 1 Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 good shit, this forum rocks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shellshock1918 1 Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Shellshock the moulder mags work WITHOUT the bullet guide. you have to file down the tang on the back of the mag to make it fit, but its plastic...i fitted mine in like 2 min...no big deal man. then you can at least shoot some hi caps! I plan to get 2 of these for the time being to wait for my BG. Ill file the mag catch so I can use ALL AK mags eventually. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
medicff0879 0 Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Just ordered a couple for $11 a piece, figure that is two for the price of one surefire!! So, now that these are on the way, what should I use to file down the backend so it will fit? A file, an exacto, what is the best/safest way to take off a little at a time? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RexHerndon 0 Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Just ordered a couple for $11 a piece, figure that is two for the price of one surefire!! So, now that these are on the way, what should I use to file down the backend so it will fit? A file, an exacto, what is the best/safest way to take off a little at a time? I bought two. They arrived yesterday in the mail. It took me less than five minutes with a file to mod. both mags. T work great now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
soberups 1 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Just ordered a couple for $11 a piece, figure that is two for the price of one surefire!! So, now that these are on the way, what should I use to file down the backend so it will fit? A file, an exacto, what is the best/safest way to take off a little at a time? I used a Dremel, but an exacto knife would work just as well. Hell, you could probably use your wife's nail file. All I did was to lay the factory 10 rounder on top of the Master molder and compare the mag catches...file off just a wee bit at a time until they look identical and the new mag latches securely into your gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
b2673ad 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Hey Were those 47 round magazines this type? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sicktooth 8 Posted March 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 (edited) i used a dremel also to get it close then filed it for about 3 seconds till it popped in nice and tight. soberups is right, you could just as well use a frickin nail file there is so little you need to do...just don't overdo it! piece of cake man...i would use a file if anything though... kevin...i dont see a link... Edited March 9, 2008 by sicktooth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shellshock1918 1 Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Are there any metal inserts on these or are they all plastic? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
medicff0879 0 Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 i used a dremel also to get it close then filed it for about 3 seconds till it popped in nice and tight. soberups is right, you could just as well use a frickin nail file there is so little you need to do...just don't overdo it! piece of cake man...i would use a file if anything though... kevin...i dont see a link... A fingernail file it will be than!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
medicff0879 0 Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 (edited) They arrived by mail today, and like stated, it took about 5 mins. on the first one, and about 30 seconds on the second one. They fit snuggly, have yet to get to put some rounds through the gun with them, but I can only assume they will work as stated without the bullet guide!! I must say, on observation, they appear to have A LOT cheaper build to them than the Surefire mags do, but for cheap "stock up" mags they are A LOT better on the pocket at a two to one ratio!! Thanks for the recommendations and thread!! Edited March 12, 2008 by medicff0879 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shellshock1918 1 Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I got mine in the mail too. Feeds great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knox2 0 Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Damn good read fellas just wondering can I only buy the Mags and file it down Is there some safety risk involved in filing the mags down? Or am I better off paying for the expensive ass 30 RD Saiga mag Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shellshock1918 1 Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Id say just file the mag catch. One time job. Go slow. File a bit, then test fit. File, fit. File, fit. Etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
medicff0879 0 Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Id say just file the mag catch. One time job. Go slow. File a bit, then test fit. File, fit. File, fit. Etc. What he said, I found this a great project to use the new multi-tool my g/f bought me for Valentines Day. Took about 5 mins. on the first one, and about 30 seconds on the second one, piece of cake. Not that I have any doubts, but I am going to test fire them this weekend and make sure they feed ok (which they should, they load into the chamber by hand with no problem) and then order about 4 more when we get back from the country!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cscharlie 107 Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 If you give it thought, the wise route to go is to adjust/file the catch to work with the most common/abudant standard AK steel mags, then fit the less common(Master Molder)mags to the rifle. This will allow the factory Saiga mags to function aswell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
soberups 1 Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 If you give it thought, the wise route to go is to adjust/file the catch to work with the most common/abudant standard AK steel mags, then fit the less common(Master Molder)mags to the rifle. This will allow the factory Saiga mags to function aswell. Only if you install a bullet guide. Without a bullet guide, standard AK mags wont feed. Master Molder mags work because they have material on the front of the lips that acts as a bullet guide, they are almost identical to the factory 10-round mag. For me, since my Saiga is the only AK that I own, I just modify the mags to fit the gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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