Saigaczech 9 Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 I do not think you will be disappointed. It's a lot of gun for the money. Let us know how it shoots. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 There is no such thing as a good S&W. I know, I owned many, now I don't. All guns jam (this includes revolvers, but at least you can clear a jam in a semi-auto). And knives break. Hmm, I carried a 686 for years and cannot remember how many rounds I've put through it and it has never jammed or misfired on me. Same with my 4566. And I got that because my department would not allow me to carry my single action 1911 model. Perhaps all guns do jam on occasion, but my experience has been that almost all of them were due to "operator error", and in the case of semis, either no oil or faggot wristing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 I still have and shoot my father's Smith & Wesson Model 41 and Smith & Wesson K-38 Masterpiece and they have never jammed or misfired (due to weapon). They were made in the early 1950's so I guess that puts to bed sweeping generalizations by those who are a legend in their own mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wakal 10 Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Generally speaking, the trash talking directed at Slick & Weasel are about their double action semi auto line (until the Walther design P99 and the new M&P, both of which are quite decent) and the post-Clintion-sellout sideplate lock revolvers. The 41 is probably the best semi-auto .22 in general production, and the pre-lock revolvers (well, except for The Dark Days) are usually outstanding. Had a customer buy a new Auto Ordnance WWII 1911; spent two hours yesterday correcting the angles on the hammer/sear/disconnector and polishing burrs. Now it has a fairly crappy 6 pound pull (instead of "off the 12-pound gauge oh my freaking god, sweet Jebus help me, when will the hammer fall?"), which made my friend happy (he wanted a WWII type 1911, complete with crappy trigger and useless sights). I would not recommend one unless you have some free time. Out of the box, it was painful to shoot. After what should have been $150 worth of parts and bench time, now it is just milspec annoying Alex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saigaczech 9 Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 There is no such thing as a good S&W. I know, I owned many, now I don't. All guns jam (this includes revolvers, but at least you can clear a jam in a semi-auto). And knives break. Hmm, I carried a 686 for years and cannot remember how many rounds I've put through it and it has never jammed or misfired on me. Same with my 4566. And I got that because my department would not allow me to carry my single action 1911 model. Perhaps all guns do jam on occasion, but my experience has been that almost all of them were due to "operator error", and in the case of semis, either no oil or faggot wristing. Hmm, well I had a smith M29 61/2" .44 Mag that had a constant problem with the ejector rod unscrewing and jamming the cylinder in place. Fast reloads were impossible with it. A 625 I had late exhibited the same problem. I now own Taurus revolvers with lock up on the crane, the ejector rod problem is now a non-issue. I have no problems with semis in good order. In my experience most fagot wristing happens to cops who do not train enough or go to the range on a weekly basis. Doughnuts cause limp wrists. Also aren't most LEOs told to carry Glocks because you do not have to maintain them? Guess that explains the lack of lubrication. Anyway, some of the older designs are know to have jams, 1911 in particular, if not maintained properly. After all they invented the term stovepipe for a 1911 malfunction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 If you really have a 1911, check your extractor tension. Ding a ling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaddis 1,689 Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 I would think someone so skilled in the art of "shit" weapons wouldn't have ever bought a WASR either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saigaczech 9 Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I would think someone so skilled in the art of "shit" weapons wouldn't have ever bought a WASR either. Only someone so skilled in spending too much for a gun they will never shoot a lot would buy overpriced arsenal stuff. An AKM is an AKM. BTW, 1911 my extractors work fine. I am speaking of historical trend of 1911 malfunctions. Ever notice how many gunsmiths make overpriced trash called "custom 1911s" with all the problems "fixed" and ultra light triggers for idiots with too much money to spend? A fool and his money are soon parted and I would rather buy cheap guns that work out of the box and ammo to shoot then safe queens. All the gunsmithing and tweaking in the world will not help you if you are a poor shot (which you probably are based on your gun opinions) while a good shooter can hit with any gun he picks up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 (edited) Saigaczech I didn't realize that you are not only a gun expert but also a financial guru and soothsayer. Wow, I am impressed with you my friend! You can be in Washington and determine that I probably am a "poor shot based on my opinions". Do you still ride the short bus little man? You must be terribly lonely with no one to tell you how intelligent they think you are so you might try www.escorts.cz . Who knows, maybe they'll give you a kolache. I find it terribly incongruous that you claim to own a couple of 1911's yet you detest them along with Smith & Wessons and Glocks. Your ignorance and foolish thinking will keep you on the short bus. Posted with the utmost contempt, 1911 Edited September 27, 2008 by 1911 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reverendfranz 160 Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I do prefer the Yugos to the Cugirs but i do have to admit that the chrome barrel was a consideration for the price. Like i said about the 1911's, im not afraid to do a little work to get everything running perfect, thought thats far from saying if you get one, you will have to do work. a 1911 is a 1911, and an AKM is an AKM, its just like buying a classic car, some just come shinier, for a bit extra. A while back Todd Jarret ran a 1000 rounds of 45acp through a bone stock ParaUSA PXT, in ten minutes, with no misfires or problems other than burning his hand. now im not sure about the PXT's, but para does have a reputation for making some guns with more plastic in then than you would think is a good idea, so id say you are pretty well set to expect the same preformance from any other of a number of good, inexpensive, timetested 45s. Id like to see that done with a "more modern" design, where more attention is paid to tolerances than to function. add a little bit of heat expansion and a good deal of carbon, and wouldnt doubt you would have to clear it a couple times. pt1 pt2 has the actual Shooting. pt3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reverendfranz 160 Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Whats the point of saying someone you have never been to the range with, or fought in a duel, i guess, is a bad shot? also, not to derail your fun, but wheres this Taurus 1911 (as in the title of the thread) range report? Im waiting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saigaczech 9 Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Still waiting for Gas Giant to post the range report. Mine is simple. Bought Taurus 1911 for under $500 against recommendations of local shop guys (kept trying to sell me a $2K + Les Baer saying that is a gun more in line with my abilities and training). Took said gun to different ranges for different events. Trigger too light, easy to double fire. Accuracy is good, very good for combat accurate. Shoots under 3" unsupported offhand at 25 yards when I take my time. Reliability 100% with all ammo tested so far (more then I can say for a pair of Springfield 1911s I own). Takes down easily and goes back together again. And unlike some that have been reported it does NOT rattle when shook. Aesthetically I like the finish and laser engraved logo on the slide. Very nice gun. Gas Giant, shoot the gun already and tell us what you think!!!! Reverend Franz, thanks for getting us back on track. I guess I have a soft skin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted September 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 It's on layaway, and the I have to go through the whole FFL Transfer, and sometimes my FFL guy is slow to pick up. Honestly it could be a race to see when it gets here Between the 1911 pistol and My MD20 Drums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stoneshatter 0 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 It's on layaway, and the I have to go through the whole FFL Transfer, and sometimes my FFL guy is slow to pick up.Honestly it could be a race to see when it gets here Between the 1911 pistol and My MD20 Drums. My older brother bought a Taurus 1911/SS and I traded my old Iphone for a Charles Daly 1911 around the same time. We've both fed around 200 rounds through each of our pistols, and had no problems. We have both decided to replace our sights though. Our dad has a kimber, and his sights seem to be a lot better. I found some sights at a local gunshop for $25 though, which isn't that bad. We have taken turns shooting each others' pistols and can't really tell much of a difference. Mine is just a little lighter. I spent years carrying M9's, then later a glock 22. I can honestly say I prefer this 1911. I'm not a great pistol shot, I'm not an expert, but I like feel and action. Also, the parts on the Taurus are exactly the same as mine. Ran a digital caliper over several of them and couldn't find any difference. Everyone likes their gun for their own reasons. I've had a lot of people tell me Charles Daly is crap, but at the end of the day, I really like it. That's what matters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
usmc_mwroseberry 0 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I just picked mine up yesterday and already changed out the grips. I will give you a range report as soon as I have time to go shoot. When you get her she will be so soaked in grease it will make you sick. Just give her a good cleaning in CLP and eveything will be MUCH better :-D. I was going to go Colt XCE lightweight but the alum frame scared me a little and with the $75 rebate taurus 1911s have now that made mine $475 before tax. I couldn't say no to that. Good luck, Merritt SGT USMC vet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted October 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 (edited) Wellp.,,,.. The 20 round drums got here first! Yee haww! and for my next trick, the Taurus 1911 with accesory Rail,.. I'll post when it get's here,.. Nice one Merritt! Let me know how it handles!, how you like it,..good price too,.. Edited October 24, 2008 by Gas Giant Quote Link to post Share on other sites
usmc_mwroseberry 0 Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Wellp.,,,.. The 20 round drums got here first! Yee haww! and for my next trick, the Taurus 1911 with accesory Rail,.. I'll post when it get's here,.. Nice one Merritt! Let me know how it handles!, how you like it,..good price too,.. Love it so far but I haven't been to the range yet. Hopefully I'll get you a report tomorrow night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saigaczech 9 Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Cool deal on the rebate. I may have to pick up a stainless model now. Maybe with rails too. Love the blue version I have, just needs a stiffer trigger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saigaczech 9 Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Picked up another one, stainless with rails. Used money from a Glock I won to purchase it. Price was $599 and with the rebate it goes down to $524. Nice and heavy with the stainless and rails should be a soft shooter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Well here it is,. This pistol is FUCKING BAD ASS! Got out today and tossed 100 rounds down range, ZERO problems, more accurate than I thought, heavy,... and a lot of fun! 10 yards, 20 yards and 30 yards,... at the longer distances I was seeing a 6" bullet drop. This is my new favorite pistol. The brake really helps keep the nose down for rapid fire. Thanks to everyone for their input and to USMC Roseberry , still haven't received the $75 refund yet, but this takes a while. Pics,.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
usmc_mwroseberry 0 Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Gas Giant looks great. I haven't given an in depth range report of my new spring and guide rod but they work flawlessly. Pulled my groups up where they needed to be since my guide rod kept coming unscrewed. I really like the looks of yours in stainless with the hogues. I would also love to put a muzzle break on mine but since mine is my daily carry I'm doing everything I can to make mine smaller and keep it from hanging up on things. Here is what I'm looking at for my next purchase. This mag well doesn't add any extra length like the Wilson but it does require some minor tapping of the frame for the screws to hold it on. And I'm going to have to modify my hogues to make them work. I emailed the guy to give me a price on just the mag well and not include the grips as I'm not interested in the grips. Hopefully it's in the $70 range. If not then I'll work without the mag well. http://www.heinie.com/parts.php I'm glad you're happy with your PT1911. I trust my life to mine. Get yourself a set of Chip McCormick mags (you'll thank me later)... Good luck, Merritt SGT USMC vet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
747mech 1 Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I've had no complaints about mine. BTW my 6" 586 is a never-fail pinkiller AND the worst thing about Glocks is reloading a 17rd mag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3balltony 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 sweet, that rail is nice. Please let us know. I have the Taurus with the rail, it shoots better and more reliabily than my 10 year old Kimber, I dura-coated the Taurus H-K tactical black and put a set of Ajax MOP grips on it .polished the interals and shoot the stink out of it with everything from flying ashtrays to wadcutters to ball ZERO ftf's and only one misfre that popped on restrike paid $ 535.00 out the door. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Hey guys, what's a "Flying ashtray", is that a hollow point or something? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaddis 1,689 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Hey guys, what's a "Flying ashtray", is that a hollow point or something? Yeah. It was a pet name coined up for the (I think now discontinued?) .45 ACP 200 grain Speer JHP. I never thought they looked that freaking humongous personally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saigaczech 9 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 I've had no complaints about mine.BTW my 6" 586 is a never-fail pinkiller AND the worst thing about Glocks is reloading a 17rd mag. Under what conditions (range, stance) were those targets shot? Just curious. The worst things about Glocks is the bad ergonomics leading to slide bite. Or maybe the fact that they are Glocks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
747mech 1 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Close range, 1st two mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saigaczech 9 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Decent grouping. Very nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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