Huckleberry 0 Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 RECEIVED MY 10RD SUREFIRE MAGS TODAY. FIRED 40 ROUNDS WITHOUT A HITCH. RAN LIKE A SEWING MACHINE. A LITTLE LOOSE SIDEWAYS IN THE RECEIVER BUT LOCKED IN EASY. GREAT SERVICE AND COMMUNICATION UPDATES FROM NATHAN. THANKS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 cool! thanks for the range report,I gotta get some. Do you have pics of them in the gun? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
panthaka 0 Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 I received my surefire gun mags on Friday. I haven't shot them yet but I ran some drills with them. They load fine and look great but I have had trouble with them feeding into the gun properly. The round in each of my two magazines would not feed almost like the magazine was not fed into the gun far enough even though it was locked into place. Anyone got any ideas. It appears to be a well made product and I am sure it is probably just me but so far I haven't had any luck chambering a round. steven Quote Link to post Share on other sites
panthaka 0 Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) I used the golden bear #4 buckshot and the silver bear slugs. Neither one worked to chamber a round. I was able to get a winchester 000 buckshot round to chamber. It would be disappointing though if we couldn't get the russian ones to work. steven Edited September 2, 2008 by panthaka Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huckleberry 0 Posted September 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) cool! thanks for the range report,I gotta get some. Do you have pics of them in the gun? Try these................ Edited out Serial No. Edited September 2, 2008 by I'mYourHuckleberry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Nice! thanks for the pics bro! Looks good,but why does the floor plate stick out so much? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lenf 5 Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 cool! thanks for the range report,I gotta get some. Do you have pics of them in the gun? Try these................ Edited out Serial No. Hey Huck, I've been talking to Mississippi Auto Arms about the fire control groups they offer. They have noted on their web site that they are for use where the trigger has been moved forward. Comparing my 410 to your photos, it appears that your trigger is about 1 3/4" ahead of where mine is. Is this the modification they are talking about? Is it necessary to move the trigger forward when installing a pistol grip? The Dinzag site lists a trigger group for non-pistol grip conversions, but they don't specifically say that they are US made. I'd like to get a conversion done (butt stock, fore stock, gas piston, FCG, maybe a muzzle brake and sights) a pistol grip would be OK. Just not sure about the trigger. Appreciate any comments. Len Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Steel hulls have a thicker rim. They work in Russian mags OK. I have the same problem with 12ga. steel in american mags. They will most likely work in to handle the steel after the mags are properly abused. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huckleberry 0 Posted September 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Nice! thanks for the pics bro! Looks good,but why does the floor plate stick out so much? Here's a better pic.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huckleberry 0 Posted September 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 (edited) cool! thanks for the range report,I gotta get some. Do you have pics of them in the gun? Try these................ Edited out Serial No. Hey Huck, I've been talking to Mississippi Auto Arms about the fire control groups they offer. They have noted on their web site that they are for use where the trigger has been moved forward. Comparing my 410 to your photos, it appears that your trigger is about 1 3/4" ahead of where mine is. Is this the modification they are talking about? Is it necessary to move the trigger forward when installing a pistol grip? The Dinzag site lists a trigger group for non-pistol grip conversions, but they don't specifically say that they are US made. I'd like to get a conversion done (butt stock, fore stock, gas piston, FCG, maybe a muzzle brake and sights) a pistol grip would be OK. Just not sure about the trigger. Appreciate any comments. Len I believe you are talking about the TROMIX FCG for the .410 specifically. Yes you have to do the mod and move the trigger group forward for a pistol grip unless you use the stock and pistol grip combo they offer for unmodified versions. Converting is not a big deal. Go here. http://www.cross-conn.com/Saiga_Conversion/ The next site will tell you about the conversion and 922r compliance. http://home.comcast.net/~navy87guy/home/saigaconversion.html Hope this helps. If not, someone will chime in and help. Edited September 3, 2008 by I'mYourHuckleberry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psee 0 Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Man I'm getting worried, ordered 2 units when MAA first listed them (back in March) but haven't received my tracking order or a response from Nathan. Glad you guys are having better luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 The floorplate is a monster, so it can go over those cross ribs when you cut the magazine down to less capacity as needed. Unfortunately, the SureFire mags are just hair narrower then OEM mags so .444 Marlin rounds will not work in them. That just killed off the Tromix 444 project. Thanks SureFire........good going on that one..... Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huckleberry 0 Posted September 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Man I'm getting worried, ordered 2 units when MAA first listed them (back in March) but haven't received my tracking order or a response from Nathan. Glad you guys are having better luck. Nothing to worry about, Nathan will take care of you............ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 The floorplate is a monster, so it can go over those cross ribs when you cut the magazine down to less capacity as needed. Unfortunately, the SureFire mags are just hair narrower then OEM mags so .444 Marlin rounds will not work in them. That just killed off the Tromix 444 project. Thanks SureFire........good going on that one..... Tony I was wondering what was up when you listed those .410 for sale. Thats too bad man. Was looking forward to that one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rustynuts 3 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Easy solution, Tromix branded mags! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MAAnew 162 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Email, pm, or call us. If you haven't received one then we don't have your correct contact info. Man I'm getting worried, ordered 2 units when MAA first listed them (back in March) but haven't received my tracking order or a response from Nathan. Glad you guys are having better luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Genocide 0 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 The floorplate is a monster, so it can go over those cross ribs when you cut the magazine down to less capacity as needed. Unfortunately, the SureFire mags are just hair narrower then OEM mags so .444 Marlin rounds will not work in them. That just killed off the Tromix 444 project. Thanks SureFire........good going on that one..... Tony Dont you think it could be opened up easily? I mean Im no wiz but a few hours and a some curse words and I bet you could sand it open enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Man, I'd like to grab a few mags... but it appears my .410 "Distributor" is flaking out on me again..... Looks like it's time to start a thread..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psee 0 Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Email, pm, or call us. If you haven't received one then we don't have your correct contact info. Man I'm getting worried, ordered 2 units when MAA first listed them (back in March) but haven't received my tracking order or a response from Nathan. Glad you guys are having better luck. Got my tracking order today. Thanks Nathan! Will post pics and test results... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Dont you think it could be opened up easily? I mean Im no wiz but a few hours and a some curse words and I bet you could sand it open enough. That's not the point. The factory mags work great. The problem is with warranty work; someone in the future buys a 444 Tromix and tries to use a Surefire mag. It misfeeds constantly and they send it in for repair to Tony. You can't risk it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Genocide 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 I see, very valid point. I guess selling .444 only mags would be a hassle too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 glad to see they are out there and in production now! very cool! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 I'm waiting for gen 2 or gen 3 mags , but fortunatly (and $$$ly) I bought 2 of the russian 10's a long time ago. The S-.410 is the wife's HD and I am rather fond of her! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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