Kevsky 0 Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 (edited) When I ordered my .308 Saiga, I also ordered an 8x42 POSP scope. When I got them I realized that the Saiga stock is about 2 3/4" longer than the AK that the scope/mount was designed for. I needed to find a solution other than streching my neck several inches or the cost and effort of an AK stock conversion. The best solution to my posts about this was to use a commercial scope and weaver style mount. Here is what I came up with. J&G Sales has otherwise useless Chinese thumbhole buttstocks on sale for $0.89 each if you buy 10 or more, otherwise $9.95 each. After working up a couple of templates, cutting, rasping, filing and sanding, here is the result. This stock is about 1 3/4" shorter than the Saiga and 1" longer than my SAR-1. To me a perfect "American Sized" stock. I refinished the forearm and the new buttstock with a textured "spatter"/satin polyurethane clearcoat and added QD sling mounts. Nothing fancy, what do you think? Edited January 14, 2005 by Kevsky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevsky 0 Posted January 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Ok, first time posting a photo here, how do I post mutiple photos? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Bvamp 604 Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 wait.....you said its CHEAPER to buy ten of them than one? what the hell? looks good though.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
napoleon 0 Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 (edited) how much is shipping on ten? Looks good though! Edited January 14, 2005 by napoleon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lollygagger 1 Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Very nice work. I salute ya! Lollygagger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doerdie 0 Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 (edited) I like that color, but that wood looks to purty to cover up. So what did you do with the other 9? I'll give ya a buck or 2, for 1 or 2? Anyone want to split 10? Edited January 15, 2005 by Doerdie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 yeh, you should sell the extras if you bought ten to some of the guys here...id get a bunch, but i cant exactly sell ak47 parts on ebay....the assholes... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunslinger308 0 Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 How tall are you? I am looking for a cheek piece to add to my saiga to get my eye up to my scope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevsky 0 Posted January 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 I guess I ought to respond in order: BVAMP-I checked before posting, J&G still has these on close-out. Napoleon-From AZ(JG) to CO was $23 with shipping for 10. Lollygagger- Thanks I appreciate that! Doerdie & Bvamp-I had to match fore-end to buttstock so paint in some form was in order. Besides, especially when wet, the textured finish beats the hell out of slick plastic. The finish probably, with some imagination, could be pretty wild or more drab. See April 1999 Rifle Shooter magazine for details. As far as shipping one of my extras, while they're still on sale, it would probably make more sense to buy a lot of ten from J&G than to pay shipping on just one or two. Gunslinger-6'0" OK, I think that covers it so far. If needed, maybe I could give some details from the magazine article about the finish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doerdie 0 Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 (edited) Yea, I can see my wifes eyes when not 1, but 10 buttstocks land on the front porch I think I'll skip that confrontation Edited January 15, 2005 by Doerdie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevsky 0 Posted January 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 (edited) Come on now Doerdie, soon as that box comes, squirrel it away. When she asks about it, tell her how the one stock cost some $23, not a bad deal! Save the revalation that you actually got 10 for that price for when you really need to save your butt!!! But darling, I saved so much on those other.....that...... Good Luck Edited January 15, 2005 by Kevsky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doerdie 0 Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 I figure with my woodworking experience (which is limited to a Sawzall and drywall screws), I wouldn't have much luck. Then again with 10 stocks, I may actually achive success, and have some fuel for my fireplace as an added bonus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 VERY nice job!!!! it looks like something you would spend $40 bucks on at a stock shop!!! I like to color too! VERY COOL!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
REDDOG 0 Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Kevsky, what did the POSP scope cost ya? Just bought one at the local gun show and yes I'm having the same problem, the stock is too long or my damn neck is too short!!! Nice job on the stock and cool color too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevsky 0 Posted January 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 I paid $120 for the scope from GUNSnStuff (akaFAC), you can find them in SGN or just add .net to the name. But a heads-up, they weren't the easiest people to work with! Hey, give the stock project a try. I spent 30 years as an auto tech, not in a wood shop! If I can do it anyone can. It was alittle over 20 bucks to get 10 of them to the door. I pulled the only really ugly one out first, it had filler putty on it, figuring i'd screw it up first, that's the one in the photo! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
REDDOG 0 Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Doerdie, Yea I'll split 10 with you, unless Kevsky wants to unload a couple for $5.00 + shipping? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Freedom Optics is a great place to buy a scope. Yuri's prices are good, and his service is great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
txn 0 Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 I made the last post, BTW. I ordered my BP-02 and PSOP 6x42 from Yuri. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevsky 0 Posted January 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 (edited) Doerdie, Yea I'll split 10 with you, unless Kevsky wants to unload a couple for $5.00 + shipping? I wouldn't mind doing 2 for $5+shipping, but the shipping is a P.I.T.A. Besides, after shipping you'll probably still be paying $12 to $15. If J&G Sales still has them and they probably do, not a very popular item, it's not much more to buy 10. I paid $22 and change delivered. Screw-up one and you have more, want to do another project, you have raw material. If you want to do 2/$5+sh. i'm game, I just think 10/$9+sh. makes more sense for you. BTW, IndyArms mentioned that "it looks like something you'd pay $40 for". Boy, if I could have had the stock done, without the finish, for $40 i'd have jumped on it! I invested alot of time in it so I have something that I can take pride in. That said, you're working with a low quality piece to begin with. The original cut, where the block goes into the receiver is not perfectly square and the spacing of the receiver/tang screws are not exactly the same as the Saiga, but these items are not too noticable when finished. The buttplate also must be trimmed to size and refinished. All said and done, I like the finished results and if/when I do another, it will no doubt be a big improvement over this one Edited January 19, 2005 by Kevsky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vit 0 Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 (edited) What kind of finish is that? vit Edited January 29, 2005 by vit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lollygagger 1 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 You guys have inspired me!!! I just came back from a gunshow, where I latched on to some Romanian AK "dragunov" laminated stocks that were on a table for $3 a pop... Now, I just have to figger out what I'm going to do with them. God! I love cheap -it seems like a deal even when you can't think of WHY. Lollygagger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Hey Lollygagger... Just to note... those stocks, although LOOK fabulous on a Saiga... make it kinda unweildy to shoot... speaking from experience.. If you got some cut and tweak plans... let me know... I have two of those stocks, as well... and would LOVE to mount them on something.... I always liked how they look... just dont like how BIG the grips are... hard to actually REACH the trigger... keep me posted, if you do any woodworking on them, PLEASE! I will be much interested to hear what you come up with on those! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lollygagger 1 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 (edited) Hey Lollygagger... Just to note... those stocks, although LOOK fabulous on a Saiga... make it kinda unweildy to shoot... speaking from experience.. If you got some cut and tweak plans... let me know... I have two of those stocks, as well... and would LOVE to mount them on something.... I always liked how they look... just dont like how BIG the grips are... hard to actually REACH the trigger... keep me posted, if you do any woodworking on them, PLEASE! I will be much interested to hear what you come up with on those! Yeah, I noticed that when they were first imported on the Romanians... Looked great, but felt terrible. The pistol grip is obviously too far back from the trigger and is shaped wrong to boot! I think (on one) I'll ADD WOOD at the front of the pistol grip -and REMOVE WOOD at it's back. Why not? Jus' a idea. Lollygagger Edited January 31, 2005 by lollygagger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevsky 0 Posted February 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 (edited) What kind of finish is that?vit Sorry, it's been a while since I could get back here. I was saying that i'd like to post just how to do this, not hard. Came from a 1999 magazine. Basically, a base coat(grey), then a light coat of grey w/white spatter auto trunk paint, covered with a clear polyurethane varnish. Remember, light coats and a lot of drying time between coats. The original idea was for synthetic stocks. To get rid of that slick, slippery when wet feel, for hunting rifles. Hey, works on wood too. You wind up with a pebbly, almost rough finish that acually feels great. Edited February 8, 2005 by Kevsky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevsky 0 Posted February 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 You guys have inspired me!!! I just came back from a gunshow, where I latched on to some Romanian AK "dragunov" laminated stocks that were on a table for $3 a pop... Now, I just have to figger out what I'm going to do with them. God! I love cheap -it seems like a deal even when you can't think of WHY. Lollygagger Take one of these same cheap Chinese stocks and skeletonize it. Then you wouldn't have that huge/awkward grip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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