SaigaNoobie 66 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 (edited) So I shot some good stuff finally, instead of just surplus. 6 Shot group of 1.15" (1.45" outside measurement) 3 shot group of 1.01" 3 shot group of 1.12" Not bad for an AK. UPDATED WITH PICTURE The two 3-shot groups were on a paper target and i can't find them... I'm sure the 6shot target will suffice though. Also, I mistakenly had the scope at 3x power instead of 9x when I shot that group at 100yrds.... I wondered why it was so hard to see the Black 1.5" center diamond Edited October 27, 2008 by SaigaNoobie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ogar Lumox 1 Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Was that at 100 yds and what kind of sight are you using? Pics are very helpfull for those here who are illiterate too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaNoobie 66 Posted October 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Bump for updated pic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Nice! Not bad for an imported Russian rattle trap of a rifle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GPalmer 1 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Wouldn't that measurement be from the outside of the round in the lower left to the outside of the round in the upper right? Bit bigger than 1.5" but still pretty darn nice for an AK if it was at 100 yards! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Wouldn't that measurement be from the outside of the round in the lower left to the outside of the round in the upper right? Bit bigger than 1.5" but still pretty darn nice for an AK if it was at 100 yards! Group size is measured from center to center. You are trying to measure the rifle's precision, independent of caliber size. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GPalmer 1 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 (edited) Wouldn't that measurement be from the outside of the round in the lower left to the outside of the round in the upper right? Bit bigger than 1.5" but still pretty darn nice for an AK if it was at 100 yards! Group size is measured from center to center. You are trying to measure the rifle's precision, independent of caliber size. Actually no. When you measure a group you measure the two most distant shots. Those aren't the two most distant shots. I really shouldn't have measured the outside of the holes, I was just pointing out he's measuring the distance between the wrong set of holes... Edited October 28, 2008 by Glocker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 (edited) I didn't pay close attention to which holes were measured, I was just talking about group measurement in general being from center to center. Edited October 28, 2008 by Netpackrat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GPalmer 1 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 I didn't pay close attention to which holes were measured, I was just talking about group measurement in general being from center to center. Sorry, I was sloppy, mea culpa! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaNoobie 66 Posted October 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Re-measuring diagonally along the two furthest holes is 1.64" or 1.34" group. Still very respectable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
appalacious 0 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 excellent shooting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GPalmer 1 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Re-measuring diagonally along the two furthest holes is 1.64" or 1.34" group. Still very respectable. Yes, at 100 yards with any AK style weapon, it certainly is! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Disinformant 3 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 nice job ....try out the 175 gr gold metal match youll probably do aswell or possibly better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unknown Poster 5 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Thats decent shooting for any rifle and some of the rifles that cost 4 times what a saiga costs can't shoot that good. Some modern gun manufacturers say that 2" groups are acceptable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd9 30 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Is there any specific weight that the Saiga .308 is supposed to use? I know the PSL was designed with ~150 grain in mind, seeing as these 2 rifles are similar, I am curious as to if you go to heavy it would "batter" the rifle. Of course I may be way off base here, just throwing it out there. I wonder what the guys at Izhmash would recommend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaNoobie 66 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Last night i shot a 5 shot group of 175gr Federal Gold Match. 3 of the shots look like 1 hole. then 2 are a little outside. I'll post pics later tonight of my groups. Also did a 3 shot group with the 175gr at 50yrds using irons. very respectable. Taking it hunting next week. Watchout Bambi! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ccmano 0 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) Are these hand loads or store bought? OK... answered my own question, Federal Gold Medal Match are sold as complete rounds. I'd still be intersted to know if anyone has any pet handloads? Noobie, are there any mods to your trigger? or is it the standard one. Hans Edited November 22, 2008 by ccmano Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banshee 69 Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Groups are measured center to center. Simple to do, just measure from outside to outside and then subtract the diameter of the bullet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vorpal 0 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 SaigaNoobie, I might have misunderstood, are you planning to hunt deer with those Federal match rounds? I know that it's terrifically accurate, but you may find it's performance on game to be wanting. vorpal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaNoobie 66 Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 LOLOL No, not hunt with them. I used Winchester Softpoints for hunting. Pretty massive wound-channel and hit right where I aimed! Exit hole was about 3" accross at a rib. Barely missed the heart. The doe didn't last long without lungs. And sorry about the delay on the posting of the 175gr pic. We were shooting my rifle and my buddy's tikka at the same targets but at different points. And now I can't figure out which target I was talking about so I'm hesitant to post. The pic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaNoobie 66 Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) Three Shot Group: Measures under 1/2" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Which then opened up to a little over an inch and a quarter with the 4th and 5th shot And yes, those were shot in that order. Edited December 8, 2008 by SaigaNoobie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
txpete 0 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Three Shot Group:Measures under 1/2" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Which then opened up to a little over an inch and a quarter with the 4th and 5th shot And yes, those were shot in that order. nice shooting. pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paladin_Hammer 8 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Three Shot Group:Measures under 1/2" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Which then opened up to a little over an inch and a quarter with the 4th and 5th shot And yes, those were shot in that order. nice shooting. pete What did you do to this gun again? I've only seen one Saiga .308 in operation since I've been looking for one and it was not this accurate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paladin_Hammer 8 Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Three Shot Group:Measures under 1/2" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Which then opened up to a little over an inch and a quarter with the 4th and 5th shot And yes, those were shot in that order. nice shooting. pete What did you do to this gun again? I've only seen one Saiga .308 in operation since I've been looking for one and it was not this accurate. I must know your secrets. How are you doing this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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