TDH 0 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 I found it at this link here http://www.maxrounds.com/ Just curious if anyone has used it and if it was available in the US. 150 Euros is pretty expensive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaNoobie 66 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Let me tell you exactly what a custom Shotgun guy and pro level competitor told me. "If compensators worked well for shotguns, you bet I'd use one, but they don't so I don't." Now, that being said, that's a hell of a big brake and it eliminates the threads for attaching a polychoke. Get what you like though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigafan12345 21 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Hmm, is that an AA drum on that thing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaNoobie 66 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 No, someone took the AA design, made it work, and sells it in the UK. THE AA DRUM STILL SUCKS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Mid barrel comps are way more effective than anything you can screw on or otherwise attach to the muzzle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Wow, only $204 USD...plus S&H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mscottrogers 56 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Wow, only $204 USD...plus S&H. If it doesn't work and is expensive, then AA must sell them. I'm sure it will come with a reliablity price upgrade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Wow, only $204 USD...plus S&H. If it doesn't work and is expensive, then AA must sell them. I'm sure it will come with a reliablity price upgrade. Unless it is actually only designed to work with a gun that only has a receiver so far... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GunRunna47 7 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 that a brake from the mossberg 500 line! i think its called the road buster its a factory pistol grip 500/heatshield/ 6 shot with that big brake on the end of the barrel....mossberg ganked it from the big moma 50 cal barett rifles they look alright i guess just for looks though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 that drum is stainless and they offer a 3" version. That is a bit of a selling point. Plus it must weigh a ton, so that will cancel out all your recoil, even without the break;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tate 0 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 that drum is stainless and they offer a 3" version. That is a bit of a selling point. Plus it must weigh a ton, so that will cancel out all your recoil, even without the break;) If you are talking about Maxrounds drum the weight is 750 grams and it's made of aluminium not steel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronswin 26 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I'm currently using a Royal Arms Recoil Reducer on my Saiga-12 and I can notice a very distinct difference with it removed or attached. Muzzle brakes on shotguns work well if the design is proven and the payload is higher in mass and velocity. If you are using light #6 or #7 birdshot the felt recoil is too light to be affected by the muzzle brake, but if you use buck or slugs, the muzzle brake will marginally reduce the felt recoil. Felt recoil can be a very subjective and debatable element between individual shooters as we are all different in size, shape and perception. I often use #4 buck or slugs and/ or custom loads of 1 & 1/4 ounce high velocity shot in certain matches and after a hundred rounds or so, I can feel the difference. A trap or clays shooter would have no need for a muzzle brake or compensator and so feel they are totally useless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) that drum is stainless and they offer a 3" version. That is a bit of a selling point. Plus it must weigh a ton, so that will cancel out all your recoil, even without the break;) If you are talking about Maxrounds drum the weight is 750 grams and it's made of aluminium not steel. paste: PowerMag700 Parametres Shotgun Saiga12 Capacity 20rounds (3 inches) Materials hardened dural, stainless steel Weight 0,7 kg Price 379 EUR So where they said stainless steel they meant aluminum? They are just claiming the screws? Dural is anglospeak for alu-minie-um though, as long as it is hardened and has a bit of copper and manganese.... Seriously though, the body is obviously aluminum, but what about the "tower" where it locks into the gun? Yeah, that's dural too. that will get beat up. The site said something about internal parts being stainless. I get the brand loyalty and the hatred for AA, but this might be a good product for people who want to shoot 3" mags. you will want a cover, and eventually new tower pieces, 379.00 EUR= $510.990 USD plus shipping is much more than an MD drum, but he doesn't offer anything for magnum rounds. I don't get the impression that he intends to either. I am glad there are more products out there for my toy. Even if I can't see myself ever buying them. BTW his other non magnum drum lists at $308.833 USD + shipping. The base price is within $80 of the MD, for a drum that probably costs more per unit to make. I can't afford either, but I would probably end up with an MD if I were in the market. Edited May 15, 2009 by GunFun Quote Link to post Share on other sites
us_dragunov 11 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I believe they have an adapter or version that works with the factory Saiga-12 magwell too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tate 0 Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 paste: PowerMag700 Parametres Shotgun Saiga12 Capacity 20rounds (3 inches) Materials hardened dural, stainless steel Weight 0,7 kg Price 379 EUR So where they said stainless steel they meant aluminum? They are just claiming the screws? Dural is anglospeak for alu-minie-um though, as long as it is hardened and has a bit of copper and manganese.... Inner parts like spring etc. are stainless steel but body and feed tower is dural so to speak aluminium T7075 air craft type. Feed tower is also aluminium but the feed lips are stainless steel. I have that above version with Saiga 12 and Molot Vepr 12 feed towers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tate 0 Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 BTW that 2.5 kg version is not in production any more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tutmos 0 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Since when can you own a gun in the UK that isn't powered by springs or air? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfighteruk 6 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 (edited) Since when can you own a gun in the UK that isn't powered by springs or air? Only handguns & semi auto/pump center fire rifles are banned although you have to have secure storage & be approved by the Police........... & were limited to the number of guns owned ( usually 7 ) on licence. Ipsc ( practical ) shooting is very popular although mostly with shotguns & either .22 rifles or lever action carbines.Saiga's are still quite a rare sight at a tournament , think mine are the only USA custom ones.(Alex Wakal - Drednought D1 )although all factory models from Rusmilitary are available . Note the Mid barrel comp again from Alex,very little recoil. Edited May 19, 2009 by gunfighteruk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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